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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Nuggets from Netcraft;

www.webwise.bt.com
USA
Linux/Apache
Last change:23-May-2008
IP: 207.44.186.90 (ThePlanet.com Internet Services)

http://webwise.bt.com
UK
Linux/Apache/2.2.3 (FH)
Last change:23-May-2008
IP: 88.208.248.102 (live-servers.net)[/QUOTE]

uk server still at fast hosts not BT network,

(Asked whois.ripe.net:43 about 88.208.248.102)

inetnum: 88.208.248.0 - 88.208.248.255
netname: FASTHOSTS-UK-NETWORK
descr: UK's largest web hosting company based in Gloucester
descr: England
country: GB
admin-c: MW8691-RIPE
tech-c: GD8691-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: AS15418-MNT
remarks: report abuse to abuse@fasthosts.co.uk

no data leaves the BT network???? hmmmm

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

The numbers tell a story.

If I query the netcraft netblock owner (see here)

3 hosts are listed in the same netblock (88.208.248.0,88.208.248.255)
webwise.bt.com 88.208.248.102
www.phorm.com 88.208.248.102 (the same host as above), then 88.208.250.66, now 89.145.112.32
www.tecreports.co.uk 88.208.248.85 (same address range)

History of www.phorm.com;
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.phorm.com
OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
Linux Apache/2.2.3 (Red Hat) 23-May-2008 89.145.112.31 Phorm IPv4 Assignment
Linux Apache/2.2.3 (FH) 25-Apr-2008 88.208.250.66 UK's largest web hosting company based in Gloucester
Linux Apache/2.2.3 (FH) 8-Apr-2008 88.208.248.102 UK's largest web hosting company based in Gloucester

History of webwise.bt.com
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=webwise.bt.com
OS Server Last changed IP address Netblock Owner
Linux Apache/2.2.3 (FH) 23-May-2008 88.208.248.102 UK's largest web hosting company based in Gloucester
Linux Apache 5-Mar-2008 207.44.186.90 ThePlanet.com Internet Services

So something happened today (or was first recorded today)... Phorms hosting has changed hasn't it?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

moved to somewhere wwith more bandwidth ready for the trial and mass of data to be collated?:confused:

or moved to cheaper hosting centre as phorms going down the crapper?:LOL:

would prefer the later but probably the first :bigcry:

peter

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

So Phorm are now comfortably in the bosom of BT, I'm sure Virgin and TalkTalk are confident that their "competitor" has control of a partners domain.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecar1 (Post 34558594)

Nuggets from Netcraft;

uk server still at fast hosts not BT network,

(Asked whois.ripe.net:43 about 88.208.248.102)

inetnum: 88.208.248.0 - 88.208.248.255
netname: FASTHOSTS-UK-NETWORK
descr: UK's largest web hosting company based in Gloucester
descr: England

That's on my manor. Time for another letter to my MP to ask if he knows what's going on in his constituency.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:

Originally Posted by serial (Post 34558622)

There are 5 domains on 88.208.248.102:

openinternetexchange.org
webwise.bt.com
webwise.net
www.phorm.com
www.webwise.com

Can someone Please Confirm I read www.oix.net & www.oix.com with the same IP as webwise.bt.com ????

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: www.oix.com
Addresses: 89.145.112.31, 89.145.112.32, ""88.208.250.85""

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: webwise.bt.com
Addresses: 88.208.250.66, ""88.208.250.85"", 88.208.248.102

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[pete@localhost ~]$ dig webwise.bt.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> webwise.bt.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 13869
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 4, ADDITIONAL: 4

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;webwise.bt.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
webwise.bt.com. 1 IN A 88.208.248.102
webwise.bt.com. 1 IN A 88.208.250.66
webwise.bt.com. 1 IN A 88.208.250.85

---------- Post added at 21:34 ---------- Previous post was at 21:33 ----------

[pete@localhost ~]$ dig www.oix.com

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> www.oix.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6061
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.oix.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.oix.com. 718 IN A 89.145.112.32
www.oix.com. 718 IN A 88.208.250.85
www.oix.com. 718 IN A 89.145.112.31

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:

Originally Posted by SelfProtection (Post 34558630)

I Get:

www.oix.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| SOHO.WORKGROUP - 0 | 12 | 12 | 0 | 4 | 10 | 10 |
| xx.xxx.xxx.x - 0 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 27 | 61 | 10 |
| xxxxxxx.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 42 | 210 | 10 |
| bagu-t3core-1b-ge-013-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 38 | 160 | 30 |
| lee-bb-b-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 11 | 11 | 10 | 29 | 110 | 20 |
| pop-bb-a-as1-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 31 | 70 | 20 |
| amst-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 33 | 61 | 30 |
| ams-001.interoute.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 30 | 31 | 50 | 30 |
| Gi2-0.ams-koo-core-2.interoute.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 45 | 60 | 20 |
| PO1-0.lon-wal-core-1.interoute.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 36 | 60 | 30 |
| Te4-1.lon-wal-access-4.interoute.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 20 | 41 | 80 | 20 |
| ge-0-1-1.edge-1.sov.lon.uk.as29017.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 30 | 39 | 71 | 71 |
| ge-0-3-0.core-1.lhc.lon.uk.as29017.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 30 | 72 | 190 | 30 |
| 89-145-106-198.as29017.net - 0 | 11 | 11 | 30 | 36 | 70 | 70 |
| No response from host - 100 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |

webwise.bt.com
|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
| WinMTR statistics |
| Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| SOHO.WORKGROUP - 0 | 27 | 27 | 0 | 3 | 10 | 0 |
| xx.xxx.xxx.x - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 20 | 81 | 20 |
| xxxxxxx.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 24 | 81 | 20 |
| bagu-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 30 | 200 | 20 |
| lee-bb-b-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 27 | 160 | 20 |
| nth-bb-a-as0-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 30 | 140 | 60 |
| bir-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 10 | 28 | 80 | 21 |
| aztw-t3core-1b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 20 | 28 | 50 | 30 |
| osr02azte-tenge83.inet.ntl.com - 0 | 27 | 27 | 20 | 30 | 70 | 50 |
| 195.188.230.74 - 0 | 27 | 27 | 20 | 31 | 60 | 50 |
| 82.33.208.14 - 0 | 27 | 27 | 20 | 35 | 70 | 20 |
| pc3.prt0.fhcon.fasthosts.net.uk - 4 | 27 | 26 | 20 | 48 | 210 | 30 |
| pc1.hrt0.fhcon.fasthosts.net.uk - 0 | 27 | 27 | 20 | 38 | 80 | 20 |
| No response from host - 100 | 27 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
|________________________________________________| ______|______|______|______|______|______|
WinMTR - 0.8. Copyleft @2000-2002 Vasile Laurentiu Stanimir

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

[pete@localhost ~]$ dig www.oix.net

; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> www.oix.net
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 28327
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.oix.net. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.oix.net. 554 IN A 88.208.250.85
www.oix.net. 554 IN A 89.145.112.31
www.oix.net. 554 IN A 89.145.112.32

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34558566)

I did wonder earlier today if they'd finally pulled the plug, but apparently not. The web page has been seemingly moved from a standard html page, to a php page;

http://www.webwise.bt.com/webwise/index.html
becomes -->
http://www.webwise.bt.com/webwise/index.php

Only a PHP session cookie being set, and nothing unusual in the http requests.

I wonder how long it will take them to reconnect the dots and tell the BT search box where webwise is?

Regarding the location of Webwise
I still get the following for the IP's of "webwise.bt.com"
88.208.250.66
88.208.250.85
88.208.248.102
and they all resolve to FASTHOSTS on the tools I'm using
(Karen's Power Tools - WHOIS, and url discombobulator)

and for www.webwise.bt.com I get
resolving to
207.44.186.90
which a WHOIS lookup gives as
OrgName: ThePlanet.com Internet Services, Inc.
OrgID: TPCM
Address: 315 Capitol
Address: Suite 205
City: Houston
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 77002
Country: US

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Jones (Post 34558638)

Looking up 'www.oix.net'...
Pinging www.oix.net [89.145.112.32]....

Looking up 'webwise.bt.com'...
Pinging webwise.bt.com [88.208.250.85]....

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

If anyone wants to find what sites are hosted on an IP, this is a very nifty site:
http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/we...on-web-server/