Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36189733)

They also stop anything being built because there will always be motivated people seeking to stop infrastructure and development even when it holds back the economy for everyone else.

It's why HS2 has huge bills and is half-cancelled. We kept having to build tunnels to protect a field, or bats, or whatever else. It's why the Lower Thames Crossing has been delayed and delayed for a decade and it also would have held back the Theme Park.

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36189739)

Your use of terms like "we" and "everyone else" is interesting. I for one don't find the planning process burdensome; I think it's democratic.

This "museum" is a charming place to live imho.

You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone, as Joni Mitchell sang.

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36189739)

Your use of terms like "we" and "everyone else" is interesting. I for one don't find the planning process burdensome; I think it's democratic.

This "museum" is a charming place to live imho.

You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone, as Joni Mitchell sang.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189741)

It's charming but it has a number of issues including insufficient housing, low productivity, full capacity on the West Coast mainline and a growing concentration of the better-paid jobs being in London and the South East.

I assume by "we" Damien means "us as in the UK" as we voted in a pro-growth government.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189742)

It's great if you just want to talk and write reports but not actually do anything.

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36189747)

I bet you're a hoot at parties Andrew.:sleep:



Well, yes I suppose; it's like persistent contribution to forums eh?

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36189749)

Exactly like that - chuntering on ad infinitum, but not really adding any value to the world at large, or being beneficial/adding value to the wider society… ;)

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189445)

There are well paid across the country.

Moving Parliament wouldn’t make any difference.

But you are right with Industrial strategy, we need good paying blue collar jobs, but the drive to net-zero, increase in employers N.I., the level of corporation tax, business rates and employee rights will prevent us from ever restarting an industrial base in this country.

BP have just announced job losses globally, and you can guarantee they’ll axe the most expensive ones right back………

Same goes for any global business with operations in the U.K., anything that can be moved elsewhere were Labour is cheaper…will be.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189764)

This means that by August the average worker in London has earned what the average worker in Burnley will take a year to earn.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189766)

The cost of living in London is rather higher than Burnley.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189770)

Yes, supply and demand.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36188830)

What's the timeline for action?