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1andrew1 07-12-2021 23:19
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36104684)
I thought the best bit was the unbiased advice from Phil Duffield.

The Trade Desk is a "technology company that empowers buyers of advertising around the world."

Nothing says unbiased like someone from a company that sells advertising advising streamers to insert ads in their output…
Who commissioned the survey and doubtless input to the questions asked?

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Almost half of Brits (48 per cent) have revealed they are planning to watch more TV via streaming over the Christmas holidays, compared to usual, according to research commissioned by adtech company, The Trade Desk.

OLD BOY 07-12-2021 23:49
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36104627)
it's only a few days ago that Virgin TV had a 'bit of an issue' :D

Luckily, those with a TV aerial were still able to watch something. ;)
True. We get power cuts too but does that make electricity an untenable option to power our appliances?

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36104643)
It’s no real surprise that if you give people more time off work they’ll watch more television. The same goes for any means of watching it so the blog doesn’t particularly offer that much insight into the massive switch in consumer behaviour that would be necessary to facilitate the much prophesied end of linear television.
And of course the reason they turned to streaming during lockdown was because there was so little of much interest to watch on ‘normal’ TV.

You didn’t make that link, did you?

The change in consumer behaviour will come because streaming is the method the broadcasters will use. If scheduled TV no longer exists, it can’t be accessed, can it?

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36104644)
You appear to be conflating "using a different method of delivery" with "transitioning".

It’s not an either/or, it’s "here’s a choice if you don’t want a dish".
True, until the dishes are no longer used for broadcasting services. Sky won’t keep them in use forever.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36104684)
I thought the best bit was the unbiased advice from Phil Duffield.



The Trade Desk is a "technology company that empowers buyers of advertising around the world."

Nothing says unbiased like someone from a company that sells advertising advising streamers to insert ads in their output…
Every news media company is biased, even the BBC, sad to say. It doesn’t make all their content untrue, however.

Feel free to post your links with a different bias if you wish.

jfman 08-12-2021 00:16
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36104699)
True. We get power cuts too but does that make electricity an untenable option to power our appliances?
Well no, but if you put all eggs in one basket that reduces the options for receiving any transmissions at all, over terrestrial, satellite, cable or the internet (mobile and fixed line).

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And of course the reason they turned to streaming during lockdown was because there was so little of much interest to watch on ‘normal’ TV.
Well yes, more hours at home and less production hours meant more people were looking beyond their usual platforms. This isn't a surprise.

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You didn’t make that link, did you?
Yes, I've referred to it before on the forum.

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The change in consumer behaviour will come because streaming is the method the broadcasters will use. If scheduled TV no longer exists, it can’t be accessed, can it?
Which comes first the chicken or the egg?

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True, until the dishes are no longer used for broadcasting services. Sky won’t keep them in use forever.
Forever? 2035? 2045?

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Every news media company is biased, even the BBC, sad to say. It doesn’t make all their content untrue, however.

Feel free to post your links with a different bias if you wish.
It makes their content questionable in the extreme.

Hugh 08-12-2021 09:35
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36104699)
Snippety-snip-snip…

Every news media company is biased, even the BBC, sad to say. It doesn’t make all their content untrue, however.

Feel free to post your links with a different bias if you wish.
Erm, The Trade Desk isn’t a "news media" company, it’s a "selling advertising" company, and if you can’t see that a company that sells software which helps companies buy advertising, producing a survey that states streamers should use more advertising, may be not fully impartial and not on the side of the consumers, I’ve got a bridge for sale you might be interested in… ;)

Media Boy UK 08-12-2021 14:07
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Is DAZN moving away from Streaming services into the TV world?

Look like DAZN is set to launch an UK Pay TV Channel called DAZN PPV

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your...cences/updates

jfman 08-12-2021 14:54
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36104783)
Is DAZN moving away from Streaming services into the TV world?

Look like DAZN is set to launch an UK Pay TV Channel called DAZN PPV

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your...cences/updates
They obviously know nobody is going to pay £29.99 for a dodgy stream of a Joshua fight.

Raider999 08-12-2021 16:18
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36104785)
They obviously know nobody is going to pay £29.99 for a dodgy stream of a Joshua fight.
Wouldn't pay that for any fight even if it was in glorious UHD - could be all over in the first round!

jfman 08-12-2021 17:29
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36104794)
Wouldn't pay that for any fight even if it was in glorious UHD - could be all over in the first round!
There’s enough of us mugs out there willing to be parted with our cash for a decent PPV. Although on principle I try to keep it to legit fights and not hyped journeymen. :D

OLD BOY 08-12-2021 23:22
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36104712)

It makes their content questionable in the extreme.
As that applies to all media, you obviously think that everything you read is questionable in the extreme.

That explains a lot about you, jfman. And yet you still ask for links just to be annoying….

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36104725)
Erm, The Trade Desk isn’t a "news media" company, it’s a "selling advertising" company, and if you can’t see that a company that sells software which helps companies buy advertising, producing a survey that states streamers should use more advertising, may be not fully impartial and not on the side of the consumers, I’ve got a bridge for sale you might be interested in… ;)
It still doesn’t make the article invalid.

Why can’t you just respond to what articles say and make your own argument in contradiction to show that you actually have an answer?

Chris 08-12-2021 23:40
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36104877)
As that applies to all media, you obviously think that everything you read is questionable in the extreme.

That explains a lot about you, jfman. And yet you still ask for links just to be annoying….

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It still doesn’t make the article invalid.

Why can’t you just respond to what articles say and make your own argument in contradiction to show that you actually have an answer?
There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Hugh’s answer was perfectly reasonable. The Trade Desk isn’t a newspaper or a magazine publisher, its an agency that sells advertising. The web page you linked to is a very obvious part of its sales and marketing strategy.

I would no more waste time on them than I would forming arguments against the DFS junk mail that comes through my letterbox.

jfman 09-12-2021 07:55
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36104877)
That explains a lot about you, jfman
:confused:

I don’t think reading an article (any article) and thinking who funds it? what’s the angle? what’s the alternative thoughts on this subject? Are the particularly objectionable thought processes you portray them as.

Yes almost all media has bias to some degree, conscious and unconscious. It doesn’t give them all equal weight, standing or reputation.

Legendkiller2k 09-12-2021 11:33
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36104783)
Is DAZN moving away from Streaming services into the TV world?

Look like DAZN is set to launch an UK Pay TV Channel called DAZN PPV

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/manage-your...cences/updates
No they are just giving a extra option.

1andrew1 09-12-2021 11:47
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36104785)
They obviously know nobody is going to pay £29.99 for a dodgy stream of a Joshua fight.
They also know that an all-you-can-eat business model might work for some sports but it doesn't work for boxing.

Media Boy UK 09-12-2021 14:03
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36104904)
No they are just giving a extra option.
Will it be on Virgin Media?

Legendkiller2k 09-12-2021 15:29
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36104929)
Will it be on Virgin Media?
They're in talks.


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