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The odd PC gaffe?

Bringing out the PC excuse is a pathetic argument and one trotted out to excuse the inexcusable. Johnson actually made his picanniny remark in 2002 when he was 38 years old. A man, not a stupid child or inconsiderate teenager.; not back in the 1950's when there was a complete lack of education about minorities.

He said :-Tony Blair would love touring the continent because he will be greeted by “cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies....the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief”.

In 2012 when he was a mere 49 years old (those 49 year olds and their odd PC gaffes) said :-

'Africans would be better off if ruled by white colonisers.

He said: "Consider Uganda, pearl of Africa, as an example of the British record. The British planted coffee and cotton and tobacco, and they were broadly right. If left to their own devices, the natives would rely on nothing but the instant carbohydrate gratification of the plantain. (basically saying monkeys eating bananas)

“The best fate for Africa would be if the old colonial powers, or their citizens, scrambled once again in her direction; on the understanding that this time they will not be asked to feel guilty.”

So yeah the 'odd PC gaffe'.

BTW If you care to, and i doubt you do, just Google the word picaninny and have a look at how this racial trope has been used over the years.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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thanks, 17 years ago then .

Indeed, his target was Tony Blair and his grandiosing to the commonwealth, he was not targeting the ethnic population, his choice of words was poor, i doubt they were particularly bothered about that at the time.

I don’t see any reference to monkeys apart from the one you offered?

He is clearly saying that the colonial powers should be investing in Africa, however because they are consistently portrayed as raping and pillaging the sub-Saharan Africa it would be better if those nations welcomed the investment without the baggage.

i’m not ashamed, i haven’t done anything. However it’s clear that you are offended by proxy. Crack on and be offended. BTW do you ask for permission from the minorities on behalf of which you are offended?

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I'll ask this and then leave it as I'm not interested in having to explain why i call out racism when i see it.

Would either of you use the term picaninny or watermelon smile to a person of colour in the context Johnson did?

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No, But that isn’t the point of the thread. You’re claiming the Johnson is a racist, and I don’t share that view.

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The very fact you wouldn't and Johnson wouldn't makes my case.

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It doesn’t do anything, a poor choice of words here and there doesn’t make him racist, I haven’t seen any actions that would reinforce that view.

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I did not make up the word 'pinkskin'. It was used regularly by a very white alien bully as an insult to American pioneers in a Star Trek series. So it was made up, but not by me.

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Shame on you for watching that American trash. What was wrong with Blakes7 ? ;)

Boris is unfit to PM, there seems to be wide agreement on that across politics and more importantly with the public. It isn't an entertainment post, Celebrity Come be a Buffoon With Me, it's not. Looks like he will be PM but I predict for a very short time, when his lack of any credible Brexit plan is exposed and the country pays a heavy price. if Labour don't get rid of him, his own side will.

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Bit unfair to single out Boris as having no credible Brexit plan

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Yes. I think the role of PM favours extroverts over introverts but that doesn't mean that extroverts can't read and digest briefing papers.
Looking further ahead, Nick Boles is suggesting Ken Clarke as a potential unity government leader for the autumn. https://twitter.com/NickBoles/status...25733381148673

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That's a fair point.

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For fear of straying off topic, I agree no one has such a plan.

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I watched that as well, Mr K, I am not a one-trick pony, you know! :D

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As I said before, Boris will prove to be very popular with the electorate. He will repeat the Maggie Thatcher story in terms of keeping the Conservatives in power with a very decent majority.

And just like Maggie, he will anger the extreme left, and eventually after much noise and fuss, they will realise that they need to appeal to the centre ground in order to regain power.

Things are beginning to seem much more optimistic from where I stand, but I don't expect that you will be much impressed! :D