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qasdfdsaq 26-05-2012 17:48

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35433009)
good for them, it is nice to see a company that takes pride in their service to customers and stands up for what they believe in. Love the QR code btw :)

BT has previously fought against a bunch of other similar legislation as well, including the DEA and various related faff. VM were involved too at one point IIRC.

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Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35433010)
Were TPB supposed to be taking their servers down Sirius? I appreciate that the block is a joke but I was under the impression that they were ordered by the court to dismantle the site.

TPB already had their servers taken down by the police, they just put them back up again.

GrimUpNorth 26-05-2012 17:59

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 
There are many other sites with similar content that I'd miss more than TPB, and many sites that are no longer with us that I miss now.

Must admit I don't use TPB, usenet seems to supply me with everything I need.

Cheers

Grim

Sirius 26-05-2012 18:06

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35433236)
That suit is stupid.

However, if the broadcasters don't get any money from advertising, how will they fund the programme-making?

That's there problem not the maker of this device. As for it breaking copyright it just shows how little it takes for the rights owners to see a paycheck and shout SUE.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35433238)
Except when they extradite someone...

Which they seem to be able to do any time they wish to :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 35433251)
There are many other sites with similar content that I'd miss more than TPB, and many sites that are no longer with us that I miss now.

Must admit I don't use TPB, usenet seems to supply me with everything I need.

Cheers

Grim

And you are far safer ;)

_wtf_ 26-05-2012 20:48

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 
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Originally Posted by Milambar (Post 35433237)
I'm confused. How does the DISHNetworks vs Verizon/Comcast and all the others lawsuit have any bearing on how things are in the UK?

Because once they get their precedent in one country it ripples through. Do you really not think that if this gets upheld in the US it won't become 'law' in other countries? But the real point is that these people see just about everything as breaking copyright law (hence my joke about making a cuppa during adverts)

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Originally Posted by Milambar (Post 35433237)
The UK does not follow US law, nor does the US judicial system have any jurdistriction over the UK.

Tell that to Richard O'Dwyer.


This is another good example of copyright law stifling innovation.

As to how content creators get paid for the TV they produce that has always been a problem with new technology and it's up to them to figure it out not get laws changed to protect the business model they alredy have.

Perhaps they should start by looking at wages. Did Charlie Sheen really need to be paid $1,000,000 per episode of Two and a Half Men (TAAHM)? At it's peak, a 30 second advert during an episode of TAAHM would cost advertisers $650,000. So, 8 minutes of adverts during each episode we are talking around $10,000.000. And before I get the obligatory that's the exception let's not forget Hugh Laurie gets $700,000 per episode of House. So Hugh Laurie earned $123,000,000 ( $123 million ) dollars for 8 years work. The sad truth is, it's more than a real person who theoretically actually had the skills of Dr. Gregory House would earn in his/her lifetime and probably a few other lifetimes.

Maggy 26-05-2012 20:54

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 
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Originally Posted by _wtf_ (Post 35433232)
This should make what I posted earlier clearer. Hopefully it is a little simpler for people to understand. I do hope people read it and not just try and post some remarks they perceive as clever ;)

Already being discussed here

_wtf_ 26-05-2012 21:02

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35433327)
Already being discussed here

My original post (#657) was posted at 16:42 yesterday and that post at 20:32. Perhaps you should have gone all bold on that post and pointed them to my ORIGINAL post about it ;)

Paul 26-05-2012 21:22

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Ive amended the title of this now.

Just so anyone is clear, the rule hasnt changed, but after 700 posts, Im sure everyone has got the message by now, no need for a ridiculously long title.

Chrysalis 26-05-2012 21:27

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35433236)
That suit is stupid.

However, if the broadcasters don't get any money from advertising, how will they fund the programme-making?

They dont unless they get a tv tax like the bbc or subs like sky.

With the advent of things like IPTV and easy recording via DVR then I think tv advertising has only a downward trend although it will always stay but just be less valuable because the rewards will dwindle.

Maggy 26-05-2012 22:13

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked (Discuss but do not post detail of how to get round it)
 
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Originally Posted by _wtf_ (Post 35433331)
My original post (#657) was posted at 16:42 yesterday and that post at 20:32. Perhaps you should have gone all bold on that post and pointed them to my ORIGINAL post about it ;)

Your post was off topic..so how about we return to the topic The Pirate Bay is blocked?

_wtf_ 30-05-2012 10:08

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked
 
This lot are taking this lot to court for copyright infringement. What did they do you ask, they linked to an article about them. As linking is fundamental to the world wide web and would drive traffic to the site being linked to I would say if this became common place the web would simply cease to be.

Meanwhile in other news TPB has simply starting using one of their other IP addresses, apparently they have hundreds. It's pretty obvious that the people who pass these laws not only have no idea how the web works but have also never played whack-a-mole.

carlwaring 30-05-2012 10:55

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked
 
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Originally Posted by _wtf_ (Post 35434512)
This lot are taking this lot to court for copyright infringement. What did they do you ask, they linked to an article about them. As linking is fundamental to the world wide web and would drive traffic to the site being linked to I would say if this became common place the web would simply cease to be.

And I assume (as you haven't cited a source - an article or a court document for example) that it cannot be quite as black and white as you claim.

_wtf_ 30-05-2012 13:01

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked
 
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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35434530)
And I assume (as you haven't cited a source - an article or a court document for example) that it cannot be quite as black and white as you claim.

It seems some people don't know how to use Google (it was actualy proven one night).

Link*


* Hint it's the second link down.

carlwaring 30-05-2012 13:18

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1. No-one likes a smart-arse.
2. You could (actually should) have provided a link yourself in your original post. There is no need to make people go specifically looking.
3. That is only their response and not the original letter.

I don't have time now* to go through the whole thing, but “permission to scan clippings for 16 national titles and 90 regional newspapers plus some foreign newspapers” seems, to me, at face value, to be substantially more than them having "linked to an article".


(* I have a live show to do on the local hospital radio station.)

Russ 30-05-2012 13:26

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The next person to have an attitude problem with other members in this thread goes head-to-head with me - and my frack hammer is BIG.

_wtf_ 30-05-2012 13:30

Re: The Pirate Bay is blocked
 
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“a licence is required to link directly to an online article even without uploading any of the content directly onto your own website”.*
* Source


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