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Glitch33 20-10-2014 22:13

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Not looking good.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...20-10-2014.png

Kushan 20-10-2014 22:43

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This might be a wider issue.

Seeing some packet loss on mine:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...20-10-2014.png

However, this is our leased line in work:

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

That's not on Virgin, but it's a bit coincidental. Could be nothing, could be something.

Solarax 20-10-2014 23:38

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In W5 London here and something similarly nefarious looks like it's happened this evening...

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...20-10-2014.png

qasdfdsaq 21-10-2014 18:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan (Post 35736559)

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...20-10-2014.png

That's not on Virgin, but it's a bit coincidental. Could be nothing, could be something.

That's a pretty rubbish leased line in the evenings...

Kushan 21-10-2014 18:41

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That weird....thing...isn't normally there.

Glitch33 21-10-2014 19:27

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Service seems ropey again this evening, or is it just me? Only 45Mbps.

Glitch33 22-10-2014 18:38

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A power reset got it back to 152Mbps but this doesn't look stable to me.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/10/11.png

Kushan 22-10-2014 19:15

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There's alot of jitter there. I wouldn't be happy with that.

djstevie 23-10-2014 10:40

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Been running poorly for me since Virgin swapped me to the Superhub2AC yesterday.

Time to dig out my own router again and go back to modem mode I think.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...23-10-2014.png

This was with my own router on the SH2 in modem mode before yesterday.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...03-09-2014.png

Kushan 23-10-2014 10:41

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So I noticed a little dip on my graph last night from 1am to 5am:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...23-10-2014.png

And I also noticed the same dip on a (non-virgin) leased line:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...23-10-2014.png

Anyone got any thoughts on what would do that? Guessing it's a routing thing?

pabscars 23-10-2014 12:32

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...23-10-2014.png

Got the same here Kush,

Sephiroth 23-10-2014 13:32

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Nothing here.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...23-10-2014.png

qasdfdsaq 23-10-2014 13:51

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Heh, got the opposite on BT, a slight blip and then a latency increase for a few hours:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/10/8.png
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/05/20.png

---------- Post added at 13:51 ---------- Previous post was at 13:50 ----------

[Edit] Craigy's VM seemed to have the upward blip as well:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/10/9.png

Glitch33 01-11-2014 08:42

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Mine seems much better over the past few days.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...01-11-2014.png

jfish 01-11-2014 13:24

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just started mine last night

I assume this is ok ??

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/68.png

Sephiroth 01-11-2014 13:43

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Depends on your experiences. It's OK if you're browsing casually but prolly not perfect for real time gaming due to the maximum latency variations (blue).

Hugh 01-11-2014 14:16

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I've found rebooting my SH1 every couple of weeks helps (don't know why it should, but it does).

I rebooted around two hours ago.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/m...b87bad05c0.png

This is it three weeks ago...

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/m...10-10-2014.png

ianch99 02-11-2014 21:20

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Looking bad tonight:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...02-11-2014.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/61.png

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedt...4987923836.png

qasdfdsaq 02-11-2014 22:00

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Not as bad as mine did two years ago:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/59.png

(Oh my, it's been two years already?)

---------- Post added at 22:00 ---------- Previous post was at 21:57 ----------

On the other hand even that doesn't compare to this poor guy:

http://qasdfdsaq.com/ping/5d664402b6...1 12-11-20.png

Or this one:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/60.png

ianch99 02-11-2014 22:20

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Makes me feel much better, thanks

blue166 06-11-2014 13:30

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Hi guys, Here is a shot of my BT Infinity 80/20 at the moment. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-11-2014.png

qasdfdsaq 06-11-2014 14:09

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Damn you, even I'm jealous.

heero_yuy 07-11-2014 09:55

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Here's ours from the last few hours, I only set it up yesterday:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...07-11-2014.png

Interestingly the small rise at 3:30pm was when I turned the PC off. The later rise was when we were streaming HD content off youtube on the smart TV.

Probably caning the SH1. :D

Martin_D 15-11-2014 10:19

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/38.png

Mr Pharmacist 15-11-2014 10:37

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1 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11 (Post 35741141)

Yep. http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1416047831

SnoopZ 15-11-2014 10:42

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Yes i also have the red lines and bump like the images above.

Blairhoyle 15-11-2014 10:49

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I have the same, I'm in the FK1 area of Scotland

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png

---------- Post added at 10:49 ---------- Previous post was at 10:49 ----------

the first red line about 3pm was me switching off the hub and restarting.

roughbeast 15-11-2014 10:53

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Me too. CV3

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png

Ping 92ms. Down Speed 43Mb. Up Speed 11Mb. (Rounded)

Not fixed with manual reboot.

djstevie 15-11-2014 11:07

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png

Me too PA4 area.

heero_yuy 15-11-2014 11:07

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Same down here on the south coast. Somethings definitely amiss.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png

arcimedes 15-11-2014 11:08

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Happening in Abingdon as well

Sephiroth 15-11-2014 11:13

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RG41 Berkshire

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png

arcimedes 15-11-2014 11:13

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Speedtest to VM Luton giving full speed down and ping of 14. Speedtest to London Namesco giving ping of 100 and download of 7Mbits but upload OK at 12Mbits.

roughbeast 15-11-2014 11:46

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Problem solved, kinda. Ha Ha. I've just been onto CS, ( Banglore lol), and explained the issue and that numerous others across the country from Scotland down to London are having the same issue. Robot-like time after time, he declared "There is no issue or fault on your local line."

He directed me to go into modem mode and reconnect. He did this for me remotely and with a hard reboot, whilst I swapped my cables around. This worked. I am now onto <12ms ping and back up to 160Mb download speed. (Modem only mode) I asked him if that was the solution, to change mode and back again with a hard reboot, for all the many people on the forum and the people not on the forum who were having the same problem. "Yes", was his reply. I asked him if he acknowledged that there must have been a national fault overnight that has left many users with misconfigured systems. "There is no issue or fault on your local line." "There is no issue or fault on your local line." "There is no issue or fault on your local line." Click. Buzz. Click. "There is no issue or fault on your local line."

Just a quick question. Is it only those in modem only mode getting the problem or is it others too?

djstevie 15-11-2014 11:47

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I'm in router mode and having the problem.

roughbeast 15-11-2014 11:52

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djstevie (Post 35741168)
I'm in router mode and having the problem.

In that case do a hard reboot and let us know what happens.

Ignitionnet 15-11-2014 11:56

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue166 (Post 35739397)
Hi guys, Here is a shot of my BT Infinity 80/20 at the moment.

Apart from a touch of peak time congestion that's very good.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png

djstevie 15-11-2014 12:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35741171)
In that case do a hard reboot and let us know what happens.

Rebooted, still the same.

arcimedes 15-11-2014 12:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by djstevie (Post 35741175)
Rebooted, still the same.

No change here either.

Blairhoyle 15-11-2014 12:16

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I did a reboot and still getting the same thing.

roughbeast 15-11-2014 12:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blairhoyle (Post 35741177)
I did a reboot and still getting the same thing.

So guys, what is it about switching into router mode and back again that did the trick for me?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/34.png

Jon22 15-11-2014 12:31

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Yep same here:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms router.asus.com [192.168.1.1]
2 27 ms 8 ms 6 ms cpc13-telf11-2-0-gw.wolv.cable.virginm.net [77.98.26.1]
3 6 ms 8 ms 6 ms wolv-core-2a-ae8-615.network.virginmedia.net [80.3.159.101]
4 10 ms 10 ms 16 ms manc-bb-1c-ae12-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.141]
5 * * * Request timed out.
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 12 ms 14 ms 21 ms nrth-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254.42.130]
9 100 ms 117 ms 95 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.18]
10 25 ms 17 ms 18 ms linx-gw1.thn.ncuk.net [195.66.224.240]
11 98 ms 96 ms 100 ms te2-1-9.star10g.bdr-rt3.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.17]
12 104 ms 102 ms 100 ms te1-1-1-31.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.85]
13 105 ms 103 ms 103 ms www.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]

Ignitionnet 15-11-2014 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35741179)
So guys, what is it about switching into router mode and back again that did the trick for me?

Best guess you changed IP address and ended up in a non-hosed IP range. The issue will be due to dodgy routing.

Looking at Jon's post there's at very least a problem with the return path from Think Broadband, and it looks like the routing is asymmetrical which isn't necessarily a problem in its own right but can be.

Either way your rebooting anything on your side unless it changed your IP would have zero impact as the fault is way deeper into the network.

It is alarming how frequently Virgin seem to be having these issues. Either they have some staff who aren't entirely competent with what they are doing or some routers with some dodgy software running on them that keeps breaking whenever they are looked at the wrong way.

EDIT: Looking at that traceroute best guess is that there are far too many VM customers using one of the links on the network as a return path. Could also be that a single router on the network is in strife and packets usually multipath through it and other locations on their way back from the Internet either can't use it so are concentrated elsewhere causing congestion or all packets going through that one router are slow while other paths are okay.

EDIT2: Network bods:

6 11 ms 57 ms 11 ms 195.66.236.23
7 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms popl-bb-1c-ae9-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.118]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 15 ms 33 ms 15 ms brhm-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254.42.106]
12 20 ms 16 ms 16 ms wolv-core-2b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.146]
13 19 ms 19 ms 53 ms cpc13-telf11-2-0-gw.wolv.cable.virginm.net [77.98.26.1]

Doesn't that look like an MPLS path where they forgot to not increment TTL?

That's new - wonder if they were making changes on the core which went pearshaped?

Meh, all conjecture, could be a whole bunch of things. Looking at the blips in some people's TBB graphs looks like some planned work went wrong overnight. No idea why they'd be doing planned work on a Friday night / Saturday morning. Madness.

Kushan 15-11-2014 12:48

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:(

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

GazCBG 15-11-2014 12:56

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Lincoln LN6

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/36.png


Trace route to bbc.co.uk

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Owner>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms routerlogin.net [192.168.0.1]
2 16 ms 13 ms 8 ms 10.159.144.1
3 13 ms 11 ms 12 ms nott-core-2b-xe-1132-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.255.231.69]
4 * * * Request timed out.
5 15 ms 15 ms 17 ms nrth-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254.42.130]
6 103 ms 103 ms 104 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.18]
7 108 ms 109 ms 110 ms pos6-1.rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.237]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 107 ms 20 ms 17 ms ae0.er01.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.109]
11 17 ms 17 ms 18 ms 132.185.255.149
12 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms fmt-vip71.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Owner>


Speedtest to London Namesco

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/37.png

roughbeast 15-11-2014 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35741182)
Best guess you changed IP address and ended up in a non-hosed IP range. The issue will be due to dodgy routing..............

Either way your rebooting anything on your side unless it changed your IP would have zero impact as the fault is way deeper into the network.

My IP is the same.

Although my up/down speed stats are back to normal, my TBB graph is still showing very high latency. My ping is usually 9ms . To speedtestnet it is 12ms today. BBC is 101ms! TBB 102ms . A trace showed longest delays at the ncuk.net stage.

qasdfdsaq 15-11-2014 13:05

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35741167)

Just a quick question. Is it only those in modem only mode getting the problem or is it others too?

There is no issue or fault on your local line.

Ignitionnet 15-11-2014 13:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35741189)
My IP is the same.

Although my up/down speed stats are back to normal, my TBB graph is still showing very high latency. My ping is usually 9ms . To speedtestnet it is 12ms today. BBC is 101ms! TBB 102ms . A trace showed longest delays at the ncuk.net stage.

Ah okay - broken to some destinations not others. Unless you are using a different speed tester post-reboot no idea why that would've improved things, issue is a way away from your kit.

Incidentally although you probably knew NCUK is fine.

Tracing route to nrth-bb-1b-ae7-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.17]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms lo0.11.central11.pcl-bng01.plus.net [195.166.130.139]
4 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms irb.11.PCL-CR01.plus.net [84.93.249.97]
5 11 ms 26 ms 11 ms ae1.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.0]
6 12 ms 23 ms 12 ms 195.66.225.103
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 16 ms 23 ms 17 ms nrth-bb-1b-ae7-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.17]

Pinging tbbmeter.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.132] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=122
Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=122
Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=122
Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=122

Ping statistics for 80.249.99.132:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 11ms, Maximum = 13ms, Average = 12ms

Blairhoyle 15-11-2014 13:20

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35741179)
So guys, what is it about switching into router mode and back again that did the trick for me?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/34.png

I'm getting those similar results on Speedtest but still have the same problem

Sirius 15-11-2014 13:21

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Ip changed :(

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/35.png

GazCBG 15-11-2014 13:26

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35741179)
So guys, what is it about switching into router mode and back again that did the trick for me?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/34.png

Try going outside of Virgin Media network, as I tried with Namesco in London, where the problem appears to be.
In VM network I can get full speed, outside, I can't

qasdfdsaq 15-11-2014 13:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35741193)

Pinging tbbmeter.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.132] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=122
Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=122
Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=122
Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=122

Dunno if they've changed it for new users but my pings come from pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com. Which is still fine. VM problems again.

jalzoo 15-11-2014 13:51

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Virgin speedtest:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/31.png

Namesco Speedtest:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/32.png

Graph:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/33.png

High pings from pingbox

Pinging pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=32 time=107ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=32 time=104ms TTL=56
Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=32 time=108ms TTL=56

Taf 15-11-2014 16:33

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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png

Cardiff CF14

Ignitionnet 15-11-2014 16:37

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35741201)
Dunno if they've changed it for new users but my pings come from pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com. Which is still fine. VM problems again.

Thanks.

From my dodgy Chinese router directly:

Pinging pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164] with 64 bytes of data:

Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=64 time=11 TTL=58 seq=1
Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=64 time=11 TTL=58 seq=2
Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=64 time=10 TTL=58 seq=3
Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=64 time=11 TTL=58 seq=4

Ping statistics for pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milliseconds:
Minimum = 10, Maximum = 11, Average = 10

Blairhoyle 15-11-2014 16:45

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Virgin claiming there is not a problem

Kushan 15-11-2014 20:01

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Looks to me like it's definitely Virgin's problem:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/30.png

Sephiroth 15-11-2014 20:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blairhoyle (Post 35741231)
Virgin claiming there is not a problem

Where is this claim?

joglynne 15-11-2014 21:19

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
The VM Community forum has a thread about this and James W (Community Lead - Help & Support Forum Team) stated at 17:40pm
"I'm sorry to see that this is occurring: I've escalated it to our broadband support teams a while ago for investigation, and am waiting for an update.

I'll update when I do get that information through."

and gave this update at 21:09pm
"I assure you we do have our networking teams available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

This is being looked into, but I've no updates to share at the moment, I'm sorry.

Hopefully it won't be too much longer, but thank you for your patience so far. "

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...508163/page/16

Blairhoyle 15-11-2014 22:00

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35741271)
Where is this claim?

some stated earlier on the VM forum

mlmclaren 15-11-2014 22:24

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35741271)
Where is this claim?

It's also not in the status pages on Virgin site.....

Kushan 15-11-2014 23:01

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlmclaren (Post 35741284)
It's also not in the status pages on Virgin site.....

Not quite the same thing.

roughbeast 15-11-2014 23:10

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Looks like a sharp return to normal service.

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

I hope we are honoured with a proper explanation from VM.

Edit.............................................. ..........................

Despite the improved graph, and another modem reboot, I am only getting 100Mb download now.

Edit.............................................. .................................................. .....

Did a return to factory settings and then back to modem only mode. Now getting full speed, (160Mb), and ping of 11ms.

Blairhoyle 15-11-2014 23:19

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
seems to have been sorted

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/29.png

Kushan 15-11-2014 23:25

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
yup, looking much better here:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png

Sephiroth 15-11-2014 23:26

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blairhoyle (Post 35741283)
some stated earlier on the VM forum

Not stated on the VM forum by VM.

Instead, please see http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...2550087#M14654

roughbeast 15-11-2014 23:57

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Read this statement at the VM community forum:

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...508163/page/18

A faulty server is their explanation. That must have been one very important server to have affected every corner of the country!

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/27.png


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/28.png

alanbjames 16-11-2014 03:08

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Yep i had the same to....

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...16-11-2014.png

qasdfdsaq 16-11-2014 05:30

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35741298)
Read this statement at the VM community forum:

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...508163/page/18

A faulty server is their explanation. That must have been one very important server to have affected every corner of the country!

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/27.png


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/28.png

Unless that 'server' was performing traffic interception, inspection, throttling, or shaping it should have had nothing to do with this.

arcimedes 16-11-2014 07:37

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Hm! A lot depends on what one means by a server. Could be DNS, problem with a server ( gateway between networks?) or whatever. I believe its just to confuse one by saying server. The big question is why did it take so long to find out? Of course it was a weekend !

heero_yuy 16-11-2014 12:05

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Fixed here too about the same time as other peeps.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...16-11-2014.png

qasdfdsaq 16-11-2014 16:56

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcimedes (Post 35741321)
Hm! A lot depends on what one means by a server. Could be DNS,

No it couldn't

Quote:

problem with a server ( gateway between networks?) or whatever.
We don't normally call those 'servers'

Quote:

The big question is why did it take so long to find out? Of course it was a weekend !
Compared to the 2-3 weeks it took last time?

Qtx 16-11-2014 22:32

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Virgin Media struck dumb by NATIONWIDE packet loss balls-up
Turning it off and on again fixes glitch 12 HOURS LATER
Makes me wonder what single server (rather than router) could cause so many problems, unless it is the censorship filter server again.

Envious of all these interesting graphs. Since leaving VM almost 2 years ago mine has been consistently flat every day without fail :P

qasdfdsaq 16-11-2014 22:59

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Censorship server still shouldn't be messing with ICMP...

Ignitionnet 17-11-2014 09:19

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
It's nothing to do with the IWF / censorship filter.

The censorship kit isn't a single server for obvious reasons, it's a cluster.

Suspect they're trying to keep it simple by referring to a router as a 'server'.

Only other alternative is that a piece of Allot kit broke, though they shouldn't be wasting that thing's CPU time with ICMP.

roughbeast 18-11-2014 21:49

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Another reboot in the small hours. I'm not sure why.

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SnoopZ 18-11-2014 21:53

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35741785)
Another reboot in the small hours. I'm not sure why.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...18-11-2014.png

I also have this at the same time.

Kushan 18-11-2014 21:57

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
I have the same.

Sephiroth 18-11-2014 22:10

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
I had the same TBB glitch but there was no reboot.

I suspect that Roughie didn't have a reboot either.

qasdfdsaq 18-11-2014 22:34

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Yet another glitch in the routing between VM and TBB it seems.

Kushan 19-11-2014 09:05

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
The system is as solid as ever, it would seem.

roughbeast 20-11-2014 20:33

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35741790)
I had the same TBB glitch but there was no reboot.

I suspect that Roughie didn't have a reboot either.

What kind of TBB glitch shows up like that?

There goes another?

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...20-11-2014.png



Does the Superhub Log show us anything significant?


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Network Log

Network Log First Time Last Time Priority Error Number Description
20/11/2014 18:36:32 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:32 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
20/11/2014 18:36:32 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:32 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC
20/11/2014 18:36:31 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:31 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
20/11/2014 18:36:31 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:31 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC
20/11/2014 18:36:30 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:30 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
20/11/2014 18:36:30 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:30 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC
20/11/2014 18:36:29 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:29 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
20/11/2014 18:36:29 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:29 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC
20/11/2014 18:36:28 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:28 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
20/11/2014 18:36:28 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:28 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC
20/11/2014 18:36:27 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:27 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
20/11/2014 18:36:27 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:27 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC
20/11/2014 18:36:26 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:26 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
20/11/2014 18:36:26 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:26 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC
20/11/2014 18:36:25 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:25 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
20/11/2014 18:36:25 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:25 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC
20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT Warning (5) 85010200 TCS Partial Service
20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out
20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC
20/11/2014 18:36:23 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:23 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out



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Sephiroth 20-11-2014 21:35

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Roughie

Do always post the upstream/downstream levels when posting the network log.

In your case today, your TBB graph would seem to be unique to you and not a TBB glitch because, for example and unlike the previous time, I don't have the same "glitch" as you.

Anyway, you log shows a problem in the upstream - like you only have a partial upstream service. Hence the need to see the stats that fo with the network log.

qasdfdsaq 20-11-2014 23:57

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35742240)
What kind of TBB glitch shows up like that?

As stated above, glitches with routing between VM and TBB.

---------- Post added at 23:57 ---------- Previous post was at 23:56 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35742245)
In your case today, your TBB graph would seem to be unique to you and not a TBB glitch because, for example and unlike the previous time, I don't have the same "glitch" as you..

Indeed, nor do most other people.

roughbeast 21-11-2014 08:06

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35742245)
Roughie

Do always post the upstream/downstream levels when posting the network log.

In your case today, your TBB graph would seem to be unique to you and not a TBB glitch because, for example and unlike the previous time, I don't have the same "glitch" as you.

Anyway, you log shows a problem in the upstream - like you only have a partial upstream service. Hence the need to see the stats that fo with the network log.

Seph. It's so damn hard to present the copied stats from the SH2 GUI. I always duck the challenge. Is there an easy way of doing it? HTML doesn't seem to work here. Code tag doesn't help; not so far anyway.

Sephiroth 21-11-2014 09:30

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
The easy way of doing it, Roughie, is a simple copy & paste. If the formatting doesn't work out, no worries. The info will be there. Don't forget to repost the network log to keep everything contemporaneous.

Stats awaited!

roughbeast 21-11-2014 10:35

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35742282)
The easy way of doing it, Roughie, is a simple copy & paste. If the formatting doesn't work out, no worries. The info will be there. Don't forget to repost the network log to keep everything contemporaneous.

Stats awaited!

Here goes. Hopefully this data is still relevant to the conditions existing at the time of the glitch.

Upstream US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0
Channel ID 2 N/A N/A 1
Frequency (Hz) 39400000 N/A N/A 46200000
Ranging Status Aborted N/A N/A Success
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A 16QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4
Power Level (dBmV) 41.00 N/A N/A 42.50
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 13 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

Downstream DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4 DS-5 DS-6 DS-7 DS-8
Frequency (Hz) 299000000 267000000 275000000 283000000 291000000 307000000 315000000 323000000
Lock Status(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked
Channel ID 109 105 106 107 108 110 111 112
Modulation 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM
Symbol Rate (Msym/sec) 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000
Interleave Depth I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17
Power Level (dBmV) 7.75 8.43 8.47 8.30 8.09 7.46 7.28 7.10
RxMER (dB) 39.40 39.40 39.40 39.40 39.85 39.85 39.85 39.40
Pre RS Errors 372 332 303 279 307 299 288 305
Post RS Errors 295 284 300 277 299 298 278 303

Ignitionnet 21-11-2014 15:09

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Interesting.

Quote:

The largest cyber attack in history has been carried out against independent media sites in Hong Kong over the past few months, according to the company protecting them, increasing in their intensity each time pro-democracy activists announced new activities or developments.

That has prompted some ISPs like Virgin Media in the UK to play into the hands of the attackers by proactively blocking access to protect their own infrastructure, says Prince, something that he has never seen happen.

“It’s perverse because it means that even though the PopVote infrastructure and Cloudfare were able to defend the attack, there were still some ISPs around the world who were blocking access to the site.”

Through their network of infected personal computers and servers, the attackers have been sending a flood of spoof requests linked to the Hong Kong sites, forcing the ISPs to look up their IP addresses via the DNS global infrastructure. Overwhelmed with requests, ISPs like Virgin halted legitimate connections to the sites.

Sephiroth 21-11-2014 16:25

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35742291)
Here goes. Hopefully this data is still relevant to the conditions existing at the time of the glitch.

Upstream US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0
Channel ID 2 N/A N/A 1
Frequency (Hz) 39400000 N/A N/A 46200000
Ranging Status Aborted N/A N/A Success
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A 16QAM
Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4
Power Level (dBmV) 41.00 N/A N/A 42.50
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 13 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

<SNIP>

The upstream seems to have lost a channel (Aborted). This needs calling in or posting on the VM forum.

qasdfdsaq 21-11-2014 16:36

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Or just turning it off and back on again.

Sephiroth 21-11-2014 17:12

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35742382)
Or just turning it off and back on again.

Indeed. Though it is a SH2 so shouldn't need doing.

roughbeast 21-11-2014 22:25

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35742382)
Or just turning it off and back on again.

What again? I've done quite a few manual reboots this last few weeks to restore my connection. Looks like a pattern.

---------- Post added at 22:25 ---------- Previous post was at 21:50 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35742378)
The upstream seems to have lost a channel (Aborted). This needs calling in or posting on the VM forum.

I have posted the issue on the community forum.

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...t/td-p/2553969

qasdfdsaq 22-11-2014 01:14

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35742440)
What again? I've done quite a few manual reboots this last few weeks to restore my connection. Looks like a pattern.

Well one lost channel (upstream or downstream) at any random point isn't a huge issue and is fixed by a reboot. Permanently broken channels or repeated failures can indicate an underlying issue, but that particular symptom as a one-off doesn't really mean much.

roughbeast 22-11-2014 13:38

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35742467)
Well one lost channel (upstream or downstream) at any random point isn't a huge issue and is fixed by a reboot. Permanently broken channels or repeated failures can indicate an underlying issue, but that particular symptom as a one-off doesn't really mean much.


Given the repeated need to reboot manually I am expecting there to be an underlying problem. I'll give a few days.

qasdfdsaq 22-11-2014 17:18

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Possibly, but as you've only posted those stats once, it's impossible to say if that one-off issue is causing your repeated problems.

roughbeast 22-11-2014 20:08

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35742565)
Possibly, but as you've only posted those stats once, it's impossible to say if that one-off issue is causing your repeated problems.

Naturally. I am sure that further stats will be provided if the problem persists.

Blairhoyle 23-11-2014 13:34

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
had serious high latency in the last few hours

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedt...8816842385.png

qasdfdsaq 24-11-2014 11:23

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
160Mbps download, 1.3Mbps upload, that's a new low, even for VM!

Ignitionnet 24-11-2014 18:06

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35742837)
160Mbps download, 1.3Mbps upload, that's a new low, even for VM!

I guess the upstream test is a single stream; not getting 160Mb out of a 1.3Mb upload any time soon.

Blairhoyle 24-11-2014 18:33

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
I rebooted my hub and this is the results today

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/14.png


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