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This might be a wider issue.
Seeing some packet loss on mine: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...20-10-2014.png However, this is our leased line in work: [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] That's not on Virgin, but it's a bit coincidental. Could be nothing, could be something. |
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In W5 London here and something similarly nefarious looks like it's happened this evening...
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That weird....thing...isn't normally there.
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Service seems ropey again this evening, or is it just me? Only 45Mbps.
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A power reset got it back to 152Mbps but this doesn't look stable to me.
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There's alot of jitter there. I wouldn't be happy with that.
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Been running poorly for me since Virgin swapped me to the Superhub2AC yesterday.
Time to dig out my own router again and go back to modem mode I think. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...23-10-2014.png This was with my own router on the SH2 in modem mode before yesterday. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...03-09-2014.png |
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So I noticed a little dip on my graph last night from 1am to 5am:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...23-10-2014.png And I also noticed the same dip on a (non-virgin) leased line: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...23-10-2014.png Anyone got any thoughts on what would do that? Guessing it's a routing thing? |
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Heh, got the opposite on BT, a slight blip and then a latency increase for a few hours:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/10/8.png https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2015/05/20.png ---------- Post added at 13:51 ---------- Previous post was at 13:50 ---------- [Edit] Craigy's VM seemed to have the upward blip as well: https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/10/9.png |
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Mine seems much better over the past few days.
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just started mine last night
I assume this is ok ?? https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/68.png |
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Depends on your experiences. It's OK if you're browsing casually but prolly not perfect for real time gaming due to the maximum latency variations (blue).
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I've found rebooting my SH1 every couple of weeks helps (don't know why it should, but it does).
I rebooted around two hours ago. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/m...b87bad05c0.png This is it three weeks ago... http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/m...10-10-2014.png |
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Not as bad as mine did two years ago:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/59.png (Oh my, it's been two years already?) ---------- Post added at 22:00 ---------- Previous post was at 21:57 ---------- On the other hand even that doesn't compare to this poor guy: http://qasdfdsaq.com/ping/5d664402b6...1 12-11-20.png Or this one: https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/60.png |
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Makes me feel much better, thanks
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Hi guys, Here is a shot of my BT Infinity 80/20 at the moment. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...06-11-2014.png
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Damn you, even I'm jealous.
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Here's ours from the last few hours, I only set it up yesterday:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...07-11-2014.png Interestingly the small rise at 3:30pm was when I turned the PC off. The later rise was when we were streaming HD content off youtube on the smart TV. Probably caning the SH1. :D |
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Yes i also have the red lines and bump like the images above.
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I have the same, I'm in the FK1 area of Scotland
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png ---------- Post added at 10:49 ---------- Previous post was at 10:49 ---------- the first red line about 3pm was me switching off the hub and restarting. |
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Me too. CV3
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png Ping 92ms. Down Speed 43Mb. Up Speed 11Mb. (Rounded) Not fixed with manual reboot. |
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Same down here on the south coast. Somethings definitely amiss.
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Happening in Abingdon as well
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Speedtest to VM Luton giving full speed down and ping of 14. Speedtest to London Namesco giving ping of 100 and download of 7Mbits but upload OK at 12Mbits.
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Problem solved, kinda. Ha Ha. I've just been onto CS, ( Banglore lol), and explained the issue and that numerous others across the country from Scotland down to London are having the same issue. Robot-like time after time, he declared "There is no issue or fault on your local line."
He directed me to go into modem mode and reconnect. He did this for me remotely and with a hard reboot, whilst I swapped my cables around. This worked. I am now onto <12ms ping and back up to 160Mb download speed. (Modem only mode) I asked him if that was the solution, to change mode and back again with a hard reboot, for all the many people on the forum and the people not on the forum who were having the same problem. "Yes", was his reply. I asked him if he acknowledged that there must have been a national fault overnight that has left many users with misconfigured systems. "There is no issue or fault on your local line." "There is no issue or fault on your local line." "There is no issue or fault on your local line." Click. Buzz. Click. "There is no issue or fault on your local line." Just a quick question. Is it only those in modem only mode getting the problem or is it others too? |
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I'm in router mode and having the problem.
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Yep same here:
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...15-11-2014.png 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms router.asus.com [192.168.1.1] 2 27 ms 8 ms 6 ms cpc13-telf11-2-0-gw.wolv.cable.virginm.net [77.98.26.1] 3 6 ms 8 ms 6 ms wolv-core-2a-ae8-615.network.virginmedia.net [80.3.159.101] 4 10 ms 10 ms 16 ms manc-bb-1c-ae12-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.141] 5 * * * Request timed out. 6 * * * Request timed out. 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 12 ms 14 ms 21 ms nrth-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254.42.130] 9 100 ms 117 ms 95 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.18] 10 25 ms 17 ms 18 ms linx-gw1.thn.ncuk.net [195.66.224.240] 11 98 ms 96 ms 100 ms te2-1-9.star10g.bdr-rt3.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.17] 12 104 ms 102 ms 100 ms te1-1-1-31.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.97.85] 13 105 ms 103 ms 103 ms www.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130] |
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Looking at Jon's post there's at very least a problem with the return path from Think Broadband, and it looks like the routing is asymmetrical which isn't necessarily a problem in its own right but can be. Either way your rebooting anything on your side unless it changed your IP would have zero impact as the fault is way deeper into the network. It is alarming how frequently Virgin seem to be having these issues. Either they have some staff who aren't entirely competent with what they are doing or some routers with some dodgy software running on them that keeps breaking whenever they are looked at the wrong way. EDIT: Looking at that traceroute best guess is that there are far too many VM customers using one of the links on the network as a return path. Could also be that a single router on the network is in strife and packets usually multipath through it and other locations on their way back from the Internet either can't use it so are concentrated elsewhere causing congestion or all packets going through that one router are slow while other paths are okay. EDIT2: Network bods: 6 11 ms 57 ms 11 ms 195.66.236.23 7 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms popl-bb-1c-ae9-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.118] 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 15 ms 33 ms 15 ms brhm-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254.42.106] 12 20 ms 16 ms 16 ms wolv-core-2b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.146] 13 19 ms 19 ms 53 ms cpc13-telf11-2-0-gw.wolv.cable.virginm.net [77.98.26.1] Doesn't that look like an MPLS path where they forgot to not increment TTL? That's new - wonder if they were making changes on the core which went pearshaped? Meh, all conjecture, could be a whole bunch of things. Looking at the blips in some people's TBB graphs looks like some planned work went wrong overnight. No idea why they'd be doing planned work on a Friday night / Saturday morning. Madness. |
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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/36.png Trace route to bbc.co.uk Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Owner>tracert bbc.co.uk Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms routerlogin.net [192.168.0.1] 2 16 ms 13 ms 8 ms 10.159.144.1 3 13 ms 11 ms 12 ms nott-core-2b-xe-1132-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.255.231.69] 4 * * * Request timed out. 5 15 ms 15 ms 17 ms nrth-bb-1b-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254.42.130] 6 103 ms 103 ms 104 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.18] 7 108 ms 109 ms 110 ms pos6-1.rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.237] 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 107 ms 20 ms 17 ms ae0.er01.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.109] 11 17 ms 17 ms 18 ms 132.185.255.149 12 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms fmt-vip71.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20] Trace complete. C:\Users\Owner> Speedtest to London Namesco https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/37.png |
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Although my up/down speed stats are back to normal, my TBB graph is still showing very high latency. My ping is usually 9ms . To speedtestnet it is 12ms today. BBC is 101ms! TBB 102ms . A trace showed longest delays at the ncuk.net stage. |
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Incidentally although you probably knew NCUK is fine. Tracing route to nrth-bb-1b-ae7-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.17] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1 2 * * * Request timed out. 3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms lo0.11.central11.pcl-bng01.plus.net [195.166.130.139] 4 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms irb.11.PCL-CR01.plus.net [84.93.249.97] 5 11 ms 26 ms 11 ms ae1.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.0] 6 12 ms 23 ms 12 ms 195.66.225.103 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 * * * Request timed out. 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 16 ms 23 ms 17 ms nrth-bb-1b-ae7-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.17] Pinging tbbmeter.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.132] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=122 Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=122 Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=122 Reply from 80.249.99.132: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=122 Ping statistics for 80.249.99.132: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 11ms, Maximum = 13ms, Average = 12ms |
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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/31.png Namesco Speedtest: https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/32.png Graph: https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/33.png High pings from pingbox Pinging pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=32 time=102ms TTL=56 Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=32 time=107ms TTL=56 Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=32 time=104ms TTL=56 Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=32 time=108ms TTL=56 |
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From my dodgy Chinese router directly: Pinging pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.164] with 64 bytes of data: Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=64 time=11 TTL=58 seq=1 Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=64 time=11 TTL=58 seq=2 Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=64 time=10 TTL=58 seq=3 Reply from 80.249.99.164: bytes=64 time=11 TTL=58 seq=4 Ping statistics for pingbox1.thinkbroadband.com Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milliseconds: Minimum = 10, Maximum = 11, Average = 10 |
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Virgin claiming there is not a problem
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Looks to me like it's definitely Virgin's problem:
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The VM Community forum has a thread about this and James W (Community Lead - Help & Support Forum Team) stated at 17:40pm
"I'm sorry to see that this is occurring: I've escalated it to our broadband support teams a while ago for investigation, and am waiting for an update. I'll update when I do get that information through." and gave this update at 21:09pm "I assure you we do have our networking teams available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. This is being looked into, but I've no updates to share at the moment, I'm sorry. Hopefully it won't be too much longer, but thank you for your patience so far. " http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...508163/page/16 |
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Looks like a sharp return to normal service.
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] I hope we are honoured with a proper explanation from VM. Edit.............................................. .......................... Despite the improved graph, and another modem reboot, I am only getting 100Mb download now. Edit.............................................. .................................................. ..... Did a return to factory settings and then back to modem only mode. Now getting full speed, (160Mb), and ping of 11ms. |
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Read this statement at the VM community forum:
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...508163/page/18 A faulty server is their explanation. That must have been one very important server to have affected every corner of the country! https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/27.png https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/11/28.png |
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Hm! A lot depends on what one means by a server. Could be DNS, problem with a server ( gateway between networks?) or whatever. I believe its just to confuse one by saying server. The big question is why did it take so long to find out? Of course it was a weekend !
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Fixed here too about the same time as other peeps.
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Envious of all these interesting graphs. Since leaving VM almost 2 years ago mine has been consistently flat every day without fail :P |
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Censorship server still shouldn't be messing with ICMP...
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It's nothing to do with the IWF / censorship filter.
The censorship kit isn't a single server for obvious reasons, it's a cluster. Suspect they're trying to keep it simple by referring to a router as a 'server'. Only other alternative is that a piece of Allot kit broke, though they shouldn't be wasting that thing's CPU time with ICMP. |
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I had the same TBB glitch but there was no reboot.
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Yet another glitch in the routing between VM and TBB it seems.
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The system is as solid as ever, it would seem.
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There goes another? http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...20-11-2014.png Does the Superhub Log show us anything significant? Super Hub Sign In Network Log home Router Status Network Log Network Log First Time Last Time Priority Error Number Description 20/11/2014 18:36:32 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:32 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out 20/11/2014 18:36:32 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:32 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC 20/11/2014 18:36:31 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:31 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out 20/11/2014 18:36:31 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:31 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC 20/11/2014 18:36:30 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:30 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out 20/11/2014 18:36:30 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:30 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC 20/11/2014 18:36:29 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:29 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out 20/11/2014 18:36:29 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:29 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC 20/11/2014 18:36:28 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:28 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out 20/11/2014 18:36:28 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:28 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC 20/11/2014 18:36:27 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:27 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out 20/11/2014 18:36:27 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:27 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC 20/11/2014 18:36:26 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:26 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out 20/11/2014 18:36:26 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:26 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC 20/11/2014 18:36:25 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:25 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out 20/11/2014 18:36:25 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:25 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC 20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT Warning (5) 85010200 TCS Partial Service 20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out 20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:24 GMT Critical (3) 82000700 Unicast Ranging Received Abort Response - initializing MAC 20/11/2014 18:36:23 GMT 20/11/2014 18:36:23 GMT Critical (3) 82000200 No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out © 2010 Virgin Media. All rights reserved. |
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Do always post the upstream/downstream levels when posting the network log. In your case today, your TBB graph would seem to be unique to you and not a TBB glitch because, for example and unlike the previous time, I don't have the same "glitch" as you. Anyway, you log shows a problem in the upstream - like you only have a partial upstream service. Hence the need to see the stats that fo with the network log. |
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The easy way of doing it, Roughie, is a simple copy & paste. If the formatting doesn't work out, no worries. The info will be there. Don't forget to repost the network log to keep everything contemporaneous.
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Upstream US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4 Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0 Channel ID 2 N/A N/A 1 Frequency (Hz) 39400000 N/A N/A 46200000 Ranging Status Aborted N/A N/A Success Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A 16QAM Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000 Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4 Power Level (dBmV) 41.00 N/A N/A 42.50 T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0 T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0 T3 Timeouts 13 0 0 0 T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0 Downstream DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4 DS-5 DS-6 DS-7 DS-8 Frequency (Hz) 299000000 267000000 275000000 283000000 291000000 307000000 315000000 323000000 Lock Status(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Channel ID 109 105 106 107 108 110 111 112 Modulation 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM Symbol Rate (Msym/sec) 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 Interleave Depth I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 Power Level (dBmV) 7.75 8.43 8.47 8.30 8.09 7.46 7.28 7.10 RxMER (dB) 39.40 39.40 39.40 39.40 39.85 39.85 39.85 39.40 Pre RS Errors 372 332 303 279 307 299 288 305 Post RS Errors 295 284 300 277 299 298 278 303 |
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Possibly, but as you've only posted those stats once, it's impossible to say if that one-off issue is causing your repeated problems.
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160Mbps download, 1.3Mbps upload, that's a new low, even for VM!
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
I rebooted my hub and this is the results today
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