Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36019792)

Well, maybe the broadband infrastructure in the US does not make this a viable project just now - I don't know. But frankly, it's irrelevant. The fact that Amazon bothered to go for these bucket shop rights, with all the energy they had to expend on making this work for just five days in December must prove that the determination is there if the experience proves successful.

Anyway, we will soon see, just three years to find out.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36019792)

Sooner or later, Amazon will get in there, and my guess is that this will come about in the 2022 bidding process.



Anyway, we will soon see, just three years to find out.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36019796)

It was a cheap as chips package that they would use as a driver for a uptake of
new Prime subscribers throughout Christmas.

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Just like the last few bidding processes l suppose....

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36019786)

Well, yes. The obvious question of the return on investment of over £5bn.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36019792)

You are trying to take us for fools if you are denying that the money will follow the football. I am sure the advice Amazon gets from its experts will enable them to assess whether it will be worthwhile to make a bid for the Premiership football, and it is pretty clear to me that this advice will lead them to go for it. You have not explained exactly why this would not work for Amazon even though it works for Sky and BT. Given that you are one of the 'nothing will ever change' brigade, you will only begrudgingly start to believe it when it hits you in the face.

You are entitled to your view, but you will be proved wrong. Sooner or later, Amazon will get in there, and my guess is that this will come about in the 2022 bidding process.

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Well, maybe the broadband infrastructure in the US does not make this a viable project just now - I don't know. But frankly, it's irrelevant. The fact that Amazon bothered to go for these bucket shop rights, with all the energy they had to expend on making this work for just five days in December must prove that the determination is there if the experience proves successful.

Anyway, we will soon see, just three years to find out.

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 36019802)

You are presupposing Amazon would bid for all Premier League rights by coming up with that figure.

If and its a big if Amazon bid for rights next time round what makes you think they would go for all rights and not just one or two packages?

Or maybe the EPL will structure a new package to tempt Amazon to spend more than they have in this round?
Something like all bank holiday weekend games or all games for several mid weeks?

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36019806)

If money follows football again the graveyard of Sky competitors in this country indicates there's a bit more to it than that.

£5bn is a huge wedge of money to invest with so much uncertainty about the model, pricing and the customer base.

Amazon haven't had to expend much energy broadcasting these games. Neither does it show a determination. It shows a unique opportunity where they could get rights of no value to anyone else that had some value to Amazon due to timing. This was by design of a league desperate to drum up interest.

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I'm sure if the league puts something on a plate, at low cost, Amazon will of course be interested. However thats a dangerous game for the league to play risking the ire (and value of the rights) to their largest revenue streams Sky and BT.

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 36019813)

You haven't answered why you think Amazon would have to spend £5 billion to secure the rights.
Multiple packages will be available why do you think Amazon would have to buy all of them?

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36019817)

Much previous conversation around this matter has revolved around Amazon or others having the resource to “blow Sky out the water”, so I’ve largely stuck to addressing that point.

Do Amazon want to do a BT/ESPN/Setanta and increase their costs to play second fiddle with a game once per week? BT Sport standalone is quite an expensive product for what it is.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36019806)

If money follows football again the graveyard of Sky competitors in this country indicates there's a bit more to it than that.

£5bn is a huge wedge of money to invest with so much uncertainty about the model, pricing and the customer base.

Amazon haven't had to expend much energy broadcasting these games. Neither does it show a determination. It shows a unique opportunity where they could get rights of no value to anyone else that had some value to Amazon due to timing. This was by design of a league desperate to drum up interest.

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I'm sure if the league puts something on a plate, at low cost, Amazon will of course be interested. However thats a dangerous game for the league to play risking the ire (and value of the rights) to their largest revenue streams Sky and BT.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36019830)

This is Amazon we are talking about! If anyone can take on Sky, they can.

If you really think it was a breeze for Amazon to take on these few matches, you are underestimating to a spectacular extent.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36019848)

BT have been taking on streaming of 8 games on their app for some considerable time in the Champions League so this isn’t the huge technological feat you claim it to be.

“If anyone can take on Sky, they can”

The same applies to BT. Hell even Setanta had venture capitalists with billions at their disposal back in the day. You are confusing having a business model for this task in its own right with the size of a company,

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36019862)

Media Boy is reporting that Comcast is planning to launch the Peacock streaming service on Virgin Media’s V6 Box, as well as BT YouView and Sky Q by 2021. CNBC have also reported that 🦚 will be a free, ad-supported service with an premium, ad-free tier.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36019874)

I am not confusing anything. I'm afraid you are in denial and your little bubble will burst before long.

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It will be interesting to see the content on offer. I might subscribe to this service if there are originals on it and other good dramas that I haven't seen.

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36019877)

Here's what I can get for you so far, OB.

https://www.pocket-lint.com/tv/news/...price-features

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36019881)

Interesting. Thanks, Aguero. Not very much on that list that grabs me, but I will see all the stuff in the library when it launches. It's the originals that are of particular interest to me!