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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35980889)

If only he had lived we would all be happy.

He did - from 1890 until 1970.

Thanks for the info everyone.

If a referendum to join wasn't held because if was deemed to be unconstitutional (why?), why wasn't this seen as a problem with the Brexit referendum?

I remember it well. Business loved it.

It was exciting to join the EC - a trading bloc, edging towards some common practices such a freedom of labour movement. This never became a problem for some (not a problem for me) until the Eastern European countries joined what had become the EU; of course they were all taught English not French or German so here they came. Again, not a problem for me, but many people didn't like this immigration; they may have liked it more had the UK guvmin behaved responsibly by putting money and incentives into infrastructure and housing and health - though the financial crisis did nothing to help the guvmin.

As for De Gaulle, the yesterday's man - an ungrateful soab who could never live down that the UK came to his country's rescue twice in as many decades - from the hegemonic Germans, of course.

Now Macron's buckling under to the Germans by signing a treaty that uses German strength to keep his stupid chest out as their running dog. Remember, Macron, the man who wants to keep us in the Backstop unless we give him our fishing rights.

All that the Remainers can say about Macron's stance is that he is looking after his own and that's natural. Doesn't mean we need to be in bed with him by remaining in the EU.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35980891)

Thanks for the info everyone.

If a referendum to join wasn't held because if was deemed to be unconstitutional (why?), why wasn't this seen as a problem with the Brexit referendum?

Because the Remainers are trying to bend constitutional norms.

De Gaulle was an ungrateful so and so.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35980907)

De Gaulle was an ungrateful so and so.

That's the French for you.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35980907)

De Gaulle was an ungrateful so and so.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35980908)

That's the French for you.

Nah - just De Gaulle & Macron!

De Gaulle understood the British better than most. He knew we would be a disruptive influence to le projet, and he was right. The EU is not nearly the creature the French have always dreamed of, because we were there, holding them back.

Of course, it is also still far too French for our liking (principally, in the working of the European Commission, which the British tabloids love to hate for its activism and regulatory zeal, but which is actually just behaving exactly as the French civil service does).

I reckon he would also not be surprised at our eventual departure, nor that the process has caused such disruption. Hey Bobby, what’s the French for I told you so? :D

Je vous l'avais bien dit.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35980925)

Je vous l'avais bien dit.

To paraphrase Blackadder.

No speak deigo?:D

It’s not Brexit specific but I found this article quite interesting about global population growth.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-rates-decline

From yesterday’s Sunday Times (it was also in the Independent, Mail, Express, Sky News, and other outlets).

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...haos-bfqgzzlrw

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35981021)

From yesterday’s Sunday Times (it was also in the Independent, Mail, Express, Sky News, and other outlets).

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...haos-bfqgzzlrw

Are they expecting remainers to turn into terrorists?

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35981022)

Are they expecting remainers to turn into terrorists?

As stated in the article

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“The overriding theme in all the no-deal planning is civil disobedience and the fear that it will lead to death in the event of food and medical shortages,”

If it does happen (which I think is highly unlikely, but there have to be contingency plans in place), any "food and medical shortages" will affect people no matter how they voted.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35981021)

From yesterday’s Sunday Times (it was also in the Independent, Mail, Express, Sky News, and other outlets).

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...haos-bfqgzzlrw

Just ignore it, we all know civil servants just make stuff up ..