Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36089450)

I should imagine the other vaccine producers are doing the same.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36089451)

I’m still considering whether I trust Pfizer, but there are no worrying ill effects yet.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36089032)

130 000 in the UK haven't survived from Covid. Our worst loss of civilian life since WW2.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36089451)

The scientists are looking at whether those who have had the AZ vaccines would benefit from the Pfizer booster and vice versa. I’m still considering whether I trust Pfizer, but there are no worrying ill effects yet.

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36089483)

What utter nonsense, the flu, cancer, heart attacks etc etc has killed millions since WW2, as have countless other illnesses.

Cancer kills over 160,000 people per year.

Heart disease killed about 63,000 in 2019, and that was the lowest this century, in 2000, the figure was around 168,000.

The flu has averaged 5000 deaths per year since 2000, when it killed 22,000 with further spikes in 2009 and 2015, which killed around 19,000.

Covid is not going to kill another 130,000 a year, it only managed that because we had zero immunity, thats simply no longer the case.

Its now reduced to being like a bad flu year - so remind me, which previous bad flu years did we wear masks, work from home etc ?

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Myself and my middle daughter had pfizer - zero effects.
My wife had AZ, no effects, my youngest also had it, and felt "off" for a day.

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36089486)

I honestly can't fathom why you keep taking on MrK. Doesn't matter what you say he'll still keep coning out with absolute crap!

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36089489)

Cancer and heart attacks aren’t contagious, either.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36089531)

Typical trope.

Ban cigarettes, Ban alcohol, Ban processed foods, Ban sugary drinks, enforce exercise

Protect the NHS

Save lives.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36089535)

Strange - none of those things are actually happening.

Almost as if you were putting forward a strawman argument...

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36089544)

Smoking is now (and has been for a while) banned from indoor areas and some outdoor areas.

Alcohol is banned from being consumed in many outdoor areas, and strangely enough, the smoking ban has had the effect of closing many pubs down . . or requiring them to become 'restaurants' in order to remain viable as a business.

Sugary drinks (and foods) are now attracting higher taxation rates, sugar also being replaced by 'substitutes' that may be worse than sugar itself.

Processed foods . . . here to stay I'm afraid, no matter what the health experts say. Drive through and home deliveries mean you now don't need to leave your car seat/sofa to get it either, so that's exercise out of the window too.

:D

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36089546)

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36089557)

Restrict ≠ ban… ;)

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36089558)

Not only that, the Bats have escaped from the belfry :shocked:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 36089560)

Whose batty belfry are we talking about?

:erm: Just asking for a friend. :D

Sorry Mods., I accept a virtual reprimand I couldn't resist as it's not often this thread makes me smile.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36089535)

Strange - none of those things are actually happening.

Almost as if you were putting forward a strawman argument...

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36089549)

Pierre? never!

It’s either that, insulting people who were furloughed or a sociopathic disregard for human life that he deems unworthy. We’ve rolled the dice I wonder which Pierre we get today?