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l agree with much of what you say as for several years Sky has been adapting their strategy in a changing marketplace with far more competition now then there was then and part of that strategy is less reliance on sport and more diversification in producing high quality content.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36019127)

Of course the untimely demise of linear isn’t the only um, bold, prediction on the forum. He has, in my view mistakenly, consistently underestimated the ability of the incumbents in the pay tv market to react. In the past consistently the mantra was about how companies are going to come in and steamroller over the top.

When in practice many of us have said that the incumbents, with their huge existing revenues, profits and customer base, are well placed to adapt to the future regardless of how that looks.

Of course they can adapt, but a continuation of scheduled linear channels as now are not the way.

The BBC i-Player, as an example, is good enough for the present, but ultimately, content will be available through a relatively small number of big streamers. Something like Britbox will be where we will find most of our UK programmes in the future.

denphone

04-12-2019 10:02

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36019167)

The BBC i-Player, as an example, is good enough for the present, but ultimately, content will be available through a relatively small number of big streamers. Something like Britbox will be where we will find most of our UK programmes in the future.

l doubt that Britbox will last that long but you know that anyway..

jfman

04-12-2019 13:05

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36019167)

Agreed. I have been saying for a long time that Sky need to produce more content of their own instead of relying on (mainly American) content produced by others. Content is everything, and this, I believe, is the only way to fight the global streamers and survive in the future world.

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Of course they can adapt, but a continuation of scheduled linear channels as now are not the way.

The BBC i-Player, as an example, is good enough for the present, but ultimately, content will be available through a relatively small number of big streamers. Something like Britbox will be where we will find most of our UK programmes in the future.

I fail to see how continuation of scheduled linear broadcasts can be described as "not the way" when since the development of Sky+ in the UK (2002?) and cable "on demand" consumers have had the option of not watching live linear scheduled television yet still they do.

Legendkiller2k

04-12-2019 14:48

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36019171)

l doubt that Britbox will last that long but you know that anyway..

Who knows regarding Britbox especially as you don't need to pay the tv tax for it.

oliver1948uk

04-12-2019 15:03

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I agree that whether we like it or not streaming will continue to increase at the expense of linear channels.

What I disagree with is the inference that this will be better.

After a hard day, it is relaxing to sit down and within a few clicks be watching favourite pre-recorded episodes of series previously easily set up waiting for you on your hard disk, sometimes giving a pleasant surprise because new episodes have magically appeared. All this at a fixed monthly rate negotiated about once a year.

No messing with different inputs and sticks. No weighing up the contents of one against the other. No searching for the cheapest code. No wading through rubbish looking for what you want to watch. No worrying over the monthly cost of it all. To me, this is hell though I accept others a actually want this.

OLD BOY

04-12-2019 16:35

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36019177)

Frankly, old chap, I don't think you'd see it if it was biting your leg off.

There's still a sizeable chunk of the population who don't have smart tvs, Sky, Virgin, BT or Talk Talk and so for them, on demand viewing is not easily available.

It's the trend you should be watching, not current numbers.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36019171)

l doubt that Britbox will last that long but you know that anyway..

Given the stink that was created when Virgin took off the UKTV channels, I wouldn't be so sure, Den. Britbox really do need to add new original programmes on a reguler basis to become a force to be reckoned with, though.

I can't see myself subscribing for the foreseeable future given that new material will not be very prominent for a while.

jfman

04-12-2019 17:42

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36019190)

It’s your misunderstanding of trends that’s causing the problem and the assumption they must trend to 100%.

I’ve cited an example before where 3/5 years of iPhone sales upwards trend continuing results in 100% market penetration of the iPhone after about 10 years. A ridiculous notion, I’m sure you’d agree.

Consider internet penetration. Still not 100%.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...t-penetration/

Mobiles. Not 100%.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ion-in-the-uk/

Unfortunately you have confirmation bias so can’t see past the future YOU would like and have been posting about since 2014. Objectivity is so far gone.

I barely watch television, and rarely linear. I don’t have a case I feel passionately about, as you clearly do.

However objectivity tells me that modifying consumer behaviour in the final 20% is much, much harder than capturing the low hanging fruit.

Bofrok

04-12-2019 18:12

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36019129)

Yeah is HDR on my LGtv.

That's interesting Legendkiller2k, I have an LG set and the picture quality on the Palace game was far superior than that for the Burnley game. I didn't think to check the picture quality but it did look like HDR whereas Burnley/City was barely HD until later in the second half.

Note: That's not forgetting the focus problems I mentioned in the Coming Soon thread yesterday.

Legendkiller2k

04-12-2019 18:28

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Originally Posted by Bofrok (Post 36019204)

Was you using the LG app or the junk v6 app?

Bofrok

04-12-2019 18:34

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36019207)

Was you using the LG app or the junk v6 app?

The LG app, still on the original Tivo at the moment.

Chad	04-12-2019 18:37

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https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ne...customers/amp/

Netflix end free month trials in the UK. Checked the Netflix website and you can only join by entering straight into a subscription with them.

Legendkiller2k

04-12-2019 18:47

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Originally Posted by Bofrok (Post 36019208)

The LG app, still on the original Tivo at the moment.

Defo seemed UHD on mine, mind you i didn't check the quality though and only had quick look at it to see what it was like.
Nividia shield was defo UHD as that's one i watched it properly on.

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36019209)

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ne...customers/amp/

Netflix end free month trials in the UK. Checked the Netflix website and you can only join by entering straight into a subscription with them.

Starting to push their luck a bit now one thinks.

horno46

04-12-2019 21:46

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Anybody else finding the need to reboot the V6 box frequently in order to get Netflix to connect?

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