Cable Forum - Brexit (Old)

The Queen has urged people to find "common ground" and to respect "different points of view".

Commentators say the remarks will be seen as referring to the Brexit debate, with MPs due to vote on the PM's deal for leaving the EU again next week.

denphone

25-01-2019 09:19

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She came out with the same tone of remarks in her Christmas message and l agree with her that said that has more or less been ignored since so whether her remarks this time has any influence remains to be seen.

papa smurf

25-01-2019 09:36

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35980727)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46996180

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"As we look for new answers in the modern age, I for one prefer the tried and tested recipes, like speaking well of each other and respecting different points of view; coming together to seek out the common ground; and never losing sight of the bigger picture."

She said these approaches were "timeless, and I commend them to everyone".

Mr K	25-01-2019 10:02

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35980731)

Hope Brexiteers are listening as most of the vitriol/hate has come from that side. Maybe its a message for TM as she hasn't budged on her crappy plan A (now re-named plan B), which has been rejected all round.

papa smurf

25-01-2019 10:10

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35980735)

I thank the gentleman for his unbiased opinion and well argued point of view.

Mr K	25-01-2019 10:15

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35980737)

I thank the gentleman for his unbiased opinion and well argued point of view.

My pleasure old chap :)

Chris

25-01-2019 10:33

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35980735)

If there was a forum award for spectacular point-missing, you’d have all the noms.

nomadking

25-01-2019 10:46

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The hate came from the Remain side BEFORE the referendum. Any "hate" from the leave side is aimed at those trying to overturn the DEMOCRATIC result.

Any other country in the world that treated the English the way we are treated would more than likely have sanctions from one direction or another(EU, UN, US etc) imposed on it.

Mick	25-01-2019 11:22

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35980740)

If there was a forum award for spectacular point-missing, you’d have all the noms.

Not impressed at all. There is a forum award of a winter break and I cannot decide if Mr K has just earned one for ignoring my instructions and causing provocation with his baseless accusations.... I will make a decision shortly... :scratch:

mrmistoffelees

25-01-2019 11:26

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35980741)

I think hate is a very strong word to use. However, very passionate feelings have been evident since the announcement of the referendum on both sides of the argument They will continue to intensify regardless of the course of action taken.

I don't hate anyone because of Brexit, my opinion on leave is that a degree of people who voted to leave were misguided or misled, some were 100% sure of why they were voting. and as Alfred once said 'some men just want to watch the world burn'

Hugh	25-01-2019 11:30

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Andrew Neil discusses WTO no-tariff deals with James Delingpole, and the potential impact on any future trade deal with the USA (about a minute into the clip).

https://twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/s...266429440?s=21

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35980741)

The hate came from the Remain side BEFORE the referendum. Any "hate" from the leave side is aimed at those trying to overturn the DEMOCRATIC result.

Any other country in the world that treated the English the way we are treated would more than likely have sanctions from one direction or another(EU, UN, US etc) imposed on it.

Did you mean ‘the British’?

Mick	25-01-2019 11:30

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35980745)

I think hate is a very strong word to use. However, very passionate feelings have been evident since the announcement of the referendum on both sides of argument They will continue to intensify regardless of the course of action taken.

This I agree - there have been elements on both sides that have been equally divisive - I won't be one sided here and say my side has behaved - they have not but neither has the Remain side, we've played the same silly games with absolutely no rules and ran campaigns exactly the same way.

But for one side to totally blame the other side is wrong and uncalled for and just instils division even further. This has to end.

mrmistoffelees

25-01-2019 11:32

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35980748)

This I agree - there have been elements on both sides that have been equally divisive - I won't be one sided here and say my side has behaved - they have not but neither has the Remain side, we've played the same silly games and ran campaigns by them.

But for one side to totally blame the other side is wrong and uncalled for and just instils division even further. This has to end.

Bloody hell, scuse me whilst i faint ;)

It has to stop you're right, but, with stakes so high, and feelings so passionate the question that begs is how?

Sephiroth

25-01-2019 11:33

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35980746)

A valid point, but it is worth noting that many "foreigners" refer to the Brits as the "English".

nomadking

25-01-2019 11:34

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35980745)

I wasn't the one that initiated the term "hate" in this context. I used it to provide continuity with the other posts that did.