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denphone 09-11-2017 04:43

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35923946)
Anyone other than Corbyn, or it's Venezuela MK II and no amount of food banks will save us from that socialism disaster.

Socialism , Capitalism not much to choose between the two as they are both pretty crap IMO.

Mr K 09-11-2017 09:33

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35923974)
Socialism , Capitalism not much to choose between the two as they are both pretty crap IMO.

So what system would you like Den ?

papa smurf 09-11-2017 09:43

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35923987)
So what system would you like Den ?

he's talking Bolsheviks ;)

denphone 09-11-2017 10:52

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35923987)
So what system would you like Den ?

One that considers all parts of society instead of certain select groups.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35923991)
he's talking Bolsheviks ;)

No you obviously are pretty way out with that assertion papa.

Mr K 09-11-2017 10:57

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35924008)
One that considers all parts of society instead of certain select groups..

Sounds good, something like this ;)


a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Spoiler: 
socialism


Mick 09-11-2017 11:03

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35924012)
Sounds good, something like this ;)


a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Spoiler: 
socialism


Yes because, it’s worked wonders for Venezuela. :rolleyes:

denphone 09-11-2017 11:09

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35924012)
Sounds good, something like this ;)


a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Spoiler: 
socialism


A abject failure if you look at the past Mr K.

Mr K 09-11-2017 11:11

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35924022)
A abject failure if you look at the past Mr K.


So, as we've said before, if they're all as 'bad as each other', you're going to have to stand for election yourself Den. Go for it !

heero_yuy 09-11-2017 11:16

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In a speech on Nov. 11, 1947, Sir Winston Churchill reminded the UK’s House of Commons that “democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those others that have been tried.” In a similar fashion, capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others.

Capitalism is no different from anything else in this world. It is imperfect because imperfect men created it. Humans are not perfect, nor are they capable of perfection. Avarice and greed are not unique to capitalism. They were present in the USSR, and they will be present in any man-made system.
Source

Osem 09-11-2017 11:16

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35924017)
Yes because, it’s worked wonders for Venezuela. :rolleyes:

Yup, it's so great there that Red Ken's emigrating IIRC. :D

denphone 09-11-2017 11:27

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35924023)
So, as we've said before, if they're all as 'bad as each other', you're going to have to stand for election yourself Den. Go for it !

l am not worthy of that honour Mr K as there are many far more perfect for the job that l am.:no:

papa smurf 09-11-2017 11:31

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35924029)
l am not worthy of that honour Mr K as there are many far more perfect for the job that l am.:no:

i don't know leader of the Bingo party might look good on you ;)

heero_yuy 09-11-2017 12:25

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35924030)
i don't know leader of the Bingo party might look good on you ;)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2017/11/5.jpg

If the cap fits...:D

denphone 09-11-2017 12:34

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35924046)

That's not bad old bean.:)

OLD BOY 09-11-2017 13:38

Re: Government & Post Election Discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35923915)
She is responsible for the campaign, she signed off on the manifesto, she hired the advisors and took their advice. It's not a secret that the rest of the party felt she shut them out and relied too much on Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill. The cabinet were only told of the social care policy the day of it's unveiling. How is she not responsible? In the end she threw away the majority.

As for the young well throwing things at the electorate is what parties do. Why do you think the Conservatives offered the triple-lock for pensioners and largely isolated them from the austerity program? That's no different to Corbyn offering stuff to the young.
You can't expect the young not to react while the government does nothing for them and then patronise them by saying they're being manipulated when someone actually addresses their concerns. If there is a lesson from Brexit then that was it!

Besides there was also a swing in middle-aged voters in urban areas and a decline in the turnout of older people. It wasn't all young people.

The difference being that the pensioners have the triple lock. Jeremy admits that he couldn't deliver on his promise.


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