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1andrew1 23-10-2016 00:51
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35865104)
What's to speculate is pretty much a given it will have more tuners than the current box , be faster , allow streaming to tablets , allow recordings across rooms isn't it.
Is it known that it will stream to tablets?

muppetman11 23-10-2016 10:59
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35865180)
Is it known that it will stream to tablets?
There's not many products in the pay tv world coming out now that can't in the home.

1andrew1 23-10-2016 12:43
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35865202)
There's not many products in the pay tv world coming out now that can't in the home.
Agreed. Just not seen this feature mentioned in connection with the V6 until your post.

Ddonald2016 23-10-2016 15:34
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35865180)
Is it known that it will stream to tablets?
If it doesn't unlike sky q, it will be a nail in the V6

denphone 23-10-2016 15:37
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35865240)
If it doesn't unlike sky q, it will be a nail in the V6
Good grief l would hate to have you by my side in the trench.;)

passingbat 23-10-2016 15:52
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35865223)
Agreed. Just not seen this feature mentioned in connection with the V6 until your post.

Streaming to tablets was available on the Tivo Bolt a couple of years ago; I would be surprised if that is not incorporated into the new software.


And Ddonald2016 is right; lack of that functionality could send some people in the direction of Sky Q

denphone 23-10-2016 16:29
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
So you believe what he says then PB? as surely you don't think Virgin are that naive regarding future functionality.

passingbat 23-10-2016 17:39
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35865247)
So you believe what he says then PB? as surely you don't think Virgin are that naive regarding future functionality.

I don't believe they are, so I expect streaming to tablet functionality, which is already on the Bolt (that doesn't mean it will be there; I have no advanced knowledge).


The question was about them not including it. If they don't, then they will lose some customers to Sky Q IMHO

Ddonald2016 23-10-2016 18:53
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35865244)
Streaming to tablets was available on the Tivo Bolt a couple of years ago; I would be surprised if that is not incorporated into the new software.


And Ddonald2016 is right; lack of that functionality could send some people in the direction of Sky Q
Exactly if it is available in the United States years ago and sky q now, if not on the v6 that would be a bad decision

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35865260)
I don't believe they are, so I expect streaming to tablet functionality, which is already on the Bolt (that doesn't mean it will be there; I have no advanced knowledge).


The question was about them not including it. If they don't, then they will lose some customers to Sky Q IMHO
Defo if they can't include such a basic feature why would we want to remain with virgin

RichardCoulter 23-10-2016 23:20
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Has anybody heard about a new budget brand called 'Red', that provides basic TV & 20meg Broadband?

After what the CEO said about VM TV being more about being an enabler rather than neccesarily providing the content themselves, I wonder if the future for VM TV could be the basic Freeview service with the ability to record and apps for people to subscribe to Netflix, Now TV, Amazon etc??

Far less carriage costs and much fewer negotiations for VM and a commission on any subscriptions taken out via their STB may make this appealing to VM.

For customers, there's no more missing channels like SA and they can choose what channels they want to pay for a la carte.

passingbat 23-10-2016 23:45
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35865331)

For customers, there's no more missing channels like SA and they can choose what channels they want to pay for a la carte.

Until at least 2020, you will only get Atlantic (at least the HBO and probably Showtime content) by subscribing to a Sky service; Satellite or Now TV.

1andrew1 23-10-2016 23:53
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35865331)
Has anybody heard about a new budget brand called 'Red', that provides basic TV & 20meg Broadband?

After what the CEO said about VM TV being more about being an enabler rather than neccesarily providing the content themselves, I wonder if the future for VM TV could be the basic Freeview service with the ability to record and apps for people to subscribe to Netflix, Now TV, Amazon etc??

Far less carriage costs and much fewer negotiations for VM and a commission on any subscriptions taken out via their STB may make this appealing to VM.

For customers, there's no more missing channels like SA and they can choose what channels they want to pay for a la carte.
Red is a brand used by Vodafone. Do you have a link to give the context to the service you are referring to?
In the meantime, here's the Vodafone link http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/pric.../zqy/aents/lcc

RichardCoulter 24-10-2016 01:53
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35865335)
Until at least 2020, you will only get Atlantic (at least the HBO and probably Showtime content) by subscribing to a Sky service; Satellite or Now TV.
But it would be available if VM threw the towel in with pay channels and provided apps like Now TV.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/why-are-virg...-reverse-this/

All about how Virgin Media are the only pay-TV provider out of Sky, BT TV and Talk Talk TV to be losing customers.

They consider Virgin Media's high prices and missing channels to be key factors.

They've always said that the TV side doesn't make any money and is only provided for triple play reasons, whilst commission from apps would make a little money.

Missing channel complaints could simply be directed to Amazon, Now TV etc.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35865336)
Red is a brand used by Vodafone. Do you have a link to give the context to the service you are referring to?
In the meantime, here's the Vodafone link http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/pric.../zqy/aents/lcc
From a thread asking why VM are the only company to be losing TV customers:

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Originally Posted by omnidirectional (Post 80582186)
I only have broadband/phone from Virgin, but got an email with a survey about their TV products and different package combinations. There were questions about watching TV on the go, and a new budget brand called "Red" offering basic TV and 20Mb broadband.

Presumably they're working on a response to the SkyQ, along with something for the low-cost NowTV market.

Unfortunately there was no opportunity to tell them what has put me off Virgin TV so far (Sluggish TiVo, missing channels, lack of dynamic EPG).

OLD BOY 24-10-2016 10:09
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35865331)
Has anybody heard about a new budget brand called 'Red', that provides basic TV & 20meg Broadband?

After what the CEO said about VM TV being more about being an enabler rather than neccesarily providing the content themselves, I wonder if the future for VM TV could be the basic Freeview service with the ability to record and apps for people to subscribe to Netflix, Now TV, Amazon etc??

Far less carriage costs and much fewer negotiations for VM and a commission on any subscriptions taken out via their STB may make this appealing to VM.

For customers, there's no more missing channels like SA and they can choose what channels they want to pay for a la carte.
I am sure that this is the general direction of travel, Richard, as envisaged on the linear channels thread. What you describe here is one of the medium term developments that will lead to a general reduction of linear broadcast TV viewing, which in turn will see a reduction, and quite possibly a total extinction of the TV channels that we currently watch in great numbers.

Pay channels will probably be the first to decline as people stop subscribing to them, in favour of paying into the quality on demand services, which will grow in number. Freeview channels will be more resilient, but they too will eventually succumb to reducing advertising revenues as audiences decline.

There are growing signs that these predictions are coming to pass, and it shouldn't be long now before the most ardent 'deniers' finally acknowledge what is happening to the broadcasting industry.

toady 24-10-2016 13:40
Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
 
I don't see advertising on TV declining any time soon, over the last ten years TV advertising has been at a consistent 50% of ad spending, the only area of advertising that has seen a shift is a decline in print and a subsequent rise in online


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