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Corbyn wants to go straight back to the seventies and the total destruction of the remaining manufacturing in this country. Absolute lefty insanity and the usual question: Where's the money going to come from?

Foot 2.0 on steroids. Political suicide.

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Great for killing the Labour party as a credible opposition let alone a government in waiting.

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Perhaps we should have a poll my old boy.;)

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So true. They need to have a good look at who's signed up for membership for a few quid. Numbers are one thing but are they really going to translate into seats, especially when the more moderate members/voters realise that the more extreme left are calling all the shots? I very much doubt it...

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and some great pledges


the pledges:

Full employment
A secure homes guarantee
Security at work
A strong public NHS and social care
A National Education service for all
Action on Climate Change
Public ownership and control of our services
A cut in inequality of income and wealth
Action to secure an equal society
Peace and justice at the heart of foreign policy

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Love to Den, if only I knew how to do it......:D

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Seem good targets to me. If anyone could deliver a third of that I'd be happy. What's the Ice Queen offering? More misery for those most vulnerable.

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I think you can judge by the lack of snidey comments ;) immediately after the speech that people were having problems putting it down. I think he did well and agree with Me K that it was a great speech.

Cheers

Grim

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the only slightly worrying thing is the borrowing and spending and the spending and borrowing aspect of his plans .

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Who has physically assaulted her husband in the past. :D

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Have those pledges been chiselled into a monolithic stone yet? :D

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We all would ,after all you never see politicians promise the earth and fail to deliver do you :rolleyes:

3 things wrong with that list ,

1...He's not in power

2...He's never going to be in power

3...He's an idiot

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I hope that you're being sarcastic :erm:

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He's not an idiot. He (and his followers) are socialist bellends of monumental proportions :D

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If you have to ask......... ;)

Cheers

Grim

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I think some of that speech will resonate with people though. The idea that we should actually be taking advantage of low borrowing rates to invest in the country isn't a new idea or an especially left-wing idea, it's what America did in the aftermath of 2008, and hopefully the Government is now planning to move away from the strict austerity program.

Home building too is badly needed, I don't understand why successive governments have failed on this. Just let councils pay for it and contract out the work to current developers. It's hardly a risky investment is it? You'll make a profit on selling them or they can use them as social housing rather than paying landlords via housing benefit.

Hopefully May steals some of these 'ideas'.

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We should be very cautious. Our electoral system means that he is the most likely Prime Minister if the Tories don't win the next election, he is the defacto alternative choice. It's very unlikely of course, especially when the Tories hit him with all his foreign policy views which will scare most voters, but then so was Trump getting anywhere near the White House and now that's quite possible.

All it takes is people being even more anti-establishment, maybe a recession, and people may suddenly look to Corbyn. One thing he has going for him is people don't think of him as a member of the political elite as it where. People won't like his pro-Russian, anti-Western, foreign policy but Trump is rather pro-Russian and anti-Western and that hasn't harmed him. Trump has made gaffs, seems incompetent and again he is doing fine.

A sudden change and Corbyn as PM might be very real.

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Can give all the speeches you want but if the majority of the public have zero faith it will translate to real results then it doesn't matter. Political apathy is rampant in the UK because we've had one mouthpiece after the other that promised a great deal and delivered very little or used their "spin" to manipulate us into disastrous foreign adventures. We need strong politicians who lead by example and don't make promises they can't keep only then is there a chance of getting people motivated by politics and for our system to recover.

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Its pretty obvious he's still thinking in 1980s terms, especially in education.

He promised an "arts pupil premium for every child in England and Wales".

Problem is, education in Wales is the responsibility of the Welsh Government, not the Westminster one, and I'd imagine Welsh Labour have other stuff to spend the money on...