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If this one turns out as bad as the last one, Im going for "Cancelled".

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It's not going to happen. There are too many people who think it is infallible and it is very popular with the Americans. The problem i have with Dr Who is that it can be completely shit and people will still watch it and they'll keep making it. It is compounded by the fact that it is the BBC (and tv license) so there is no accountability and they can make/do whatever they want and dont have to worry about losing money. It makes no difference to them whether anyone watches it or not.

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That's not how the BBC operate. They still want to make money and for their shows to be a success. Currently it's not doing well in the US. Viewing figures have been terrible, much like here in the UK.

If they feel it's doing bad then they will cancel it. They did it before. By the time Who ended in 89 its budget was so small and they really didn't care about it. If RTD can't get back some of its circa 2010-2015 popularity then it may not be around for too much longer.

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I don't know whether this is US or UK viewers. I have checked several websites which corroborate the data however none of them say whether they are US or UK figures or global total. I would assume they are UK viewing figures.

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That's definitely UK figures.

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From memory these look right for UK figures.

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Tom Baker and David Tenant the stand outs.

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Looking at it very broadly since the series came back in 2005 you are looking at the high 7m if not 8m as an average and it is on the last two seasons that it has dropped to around 5m. The optimists may say it is a pandemic related drop so we'll have to see if the trend continues with the next season. You would like to think they have taken the hint with the declining viewers and listened to everyone's feedback but I think these types of producers and writers like to double down (Supergirl, Discovery and Grey's Anatomy are prime examples) and dig their own grave and just keep going until the series get's cancelled. T

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If it was pandemic related surely the figures would be higher as everyone was at home.

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I agree but i am just giving you the excuse the BBC spin doctor will give so they dont have to acknowledge there is a problem and can brush it aside.

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I’m not sure you can put it down to any one thing. There are doubtless some who object to a female Doctor. There will be others who object to clumsily-grafted equality and diversity-type material (though it’s debatable whether Chibnall has really done any more of that than anyone else involved since 2005]. If there’s one major factor influencing the decline it’s that the stories just aren’t as good. That, after all, is what casual viewers stick around for.

Chris Chibnall can’t write for kids. He thinks he has to constantly explain what’s going on, so huge amounts of the dialogue become narrative. He conceives stories that aren’t going to fit in the allotted time and so ends up telling them in shorthand. Some of the jumps ahead in the action the other week were ridiculous.

Back in the classic era the BBC used to assign an available staff producer to run the show for a few years at a time. These guys were just BBC men making BBC shows. Sure there were variations but classic Who is overwhelmingly consistent in its production style and storytelling from 1963-1989, varying more with the fashions of the time than with the style of the producer. In the new era, the lead producer firstly isn’t an in-house BBC appointee, and secondly as “show runner” they don’t do precisely the same job as the classic producer did. Now, they do much of what the classic show’s script editor would have done, as well as writing a significant portion of the material directly. There is much greater variation between RTD, Moffat and Chibnall Who as a result. That explains why the show can have taken such a nose-dive over the past 3 years despite being run by a BAFTA-nominated writer. The production environment relies heavily on the skills of the lead producer and in this case the lead producer doesn’t know how to write child-friendly sci-fi-fantasy as well as he knows how to write gritty, brooding crime drama.

The light at the end of the tunnel here is that the incoming show runner is RTD whose skill in this area, and affection for the show, is unparalleled. Furthermore, the BBC, for the first time ever, has contracted out the show to an independent production company, run by RTD. This means he is free to exert influence while not needing to be as tied down by it as he was in his original run and should give him the freedom to oversee production while letting other get their hands on. In other words his influence may be slightly lessened but he’s likely to stick around a lot longer. Which, I think, is a very good thing.

Incidentally, I will make one prediction about the new era: RTD might appeal to the “unreliable narrator” mode of film storytelling, and ask us all to remember exactly who it was who filled us all in on the Doctor’s backstory … before eventually rowing a lot of it back.

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Also announced were David Tennent and Catherine Tate returning as The Doctor and Donna as well as Bernard Cribbins as Wilfred Mott.

60th is already shaping up to be cool.

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Who is a “trans” person, or will play a trans person ….who knows. Shark jumped.

I won’t be tuning in.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/...trans-26981287

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Yasmin Finney is a trans person.

And if you can't deal with a person that's not the exactly the same as you acting in a show where the lead character is an alien, they visit made up planets and has included sentient plants and stars, then I'm not sure it's the show that has 'shark jumped'