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thenry 23-07-2014 15:21

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Liverpool near loan signing of Javier Manquillo from Atlético Madrid

• Spaniard would be Liverpool’s first defensive deal of summer
• Reds seek season-long loan with view to permanent move

http://www.theguardian.com/football/...tletico-madrid
I was reading good things about him when he was being linked with Arsenal. Looks a good signing but I do question why AM are allowing a buy clause

denphone 23-07-2014 15:26

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Yes l think he will be a good loan signing.

thenry 23-07-2014 15:27

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35716881)
The question Arsenal fans have to ask themselves is has he progressed in the last 4 years and the answer to that is no while all those young German players developed into World Cup winners so personally l think that says everything.

What factors are those thenry?.

burnt out on the pitch and off. good intentions gone wrong really. Jack Wilshere had to bulk up but because there wasnt depth at Arsenal he played during periods he should have been given rest as part of development. Arsenal are now building a squad with depth so i'd watch how he gets on now. whats done is done.

denphone 23-07-2014 16:13

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35716886)
burnt out on the pitch and off. good intentions gone wrong really. Jack Wilshere had to bulk up but because there wasnt depth at Arsenal he played during periods he should have been given rest as part of development. Arsenal are now building a squad with depth so i'd watch how he gets on now. whats done is done.

l agree in two areas in that Wenger played him when he was not fit and also overplayed him when he was younger.

thenry 23-07-2014 16:17

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He has also played for England when he shouldn't have.

denphone 23-07-2014 16:18

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35716895)
He has also played for England when he shouldn't have.

We need to nurture and look after our younger players better.

denphone 23-07-2014 20:29

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This will please Arthur.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28413195

thenry 23-07-2014 23:05

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35716897)
We need to nurture and look after our younger players better.

What would your thoughts be on Jack Wilshere becoming a DM/CM rather than an AM

Damien 23-07-2014 23:30

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Wilshere does have some migrating circumstances behind the fact he hasn't improved to the degree we hoped but it's also something he needs to take reasonability for. He isn't simply lacked form or playing time, he has changed mentally. He used to be quite skilful, creative and was approaching Fabregas in terms of passing.

Recently however he seems to have become ill-displined and rash, almost as if he is trying to play the 'English hardline'. He doesn't maintain position and he goes in with reckless and stupid tackles. He can't seem to control himself. He needs to cut that out and get back to his proper game rather than pretending he is something he isn't - something worse.

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35717001)
What would your thoughts be on Jack Wilshere becoming a DM/CM rather than an AM

Doesn't have the positional discipline or the tackling ability to do that IMO.

thenry 24-07-2014 00:08

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You don't always have to go to ground to tackle but then you do need positional in your locker as you say. It could depend on partnerships rather than looking at it as a solo role.

IF Arsenal don't sign a DM/CM it'll be huge. Ideally with goalkeeper Ospina coming in adding Schneiderlin as a DM/CM should do it nicely. I'd be confident of going all the way in the league with that and thats cutting it short in defence.

denphone 24-07-2014 05:48

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35717001)
What would your thoughts be on Jack Wilshere becoming a DM/CM rather than an AM

l have to say l agree with Damiens thoughts on him.

iadom 24-07-2014 09:36

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LVG starts with a 7-0 win over LA Galaxy, think that says more about the standard of the MLS than anything else.:rolleyes:

denphone 24-07-2014 10:03

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Originally Posted by iadom (Post 35717054)
LVG starts with a 7-0 win over LA Galaxy, think that says more about the standard of the MLS than anything else.:rolleyes:

Perhaps Ashley Young will become MU's new Ronaldo.;)

Shadow Demon UK 24-07-2014 10:10

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35717058)
Perhaps Ashley Young will become MU's new Ronaldo.;)


Like how Rickie Lambert is liverpools new Suarez?

denphone 24-07-2014 10:49

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Better to spend £4 million rather then the near on £20 million spent on the greatest diver in the PL.:)


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