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muppetman11 04-11-2010 16:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
I don't object to paying upfront for the box , it's a monthly fee I object to and this should be free I hope to XL , VIP customers.

indie1982 04-11-2010 16:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35117703)
sky charge for there 1tb pvr drive s why shouldnt virign? 1tb disk are expesive at least the pvr type ones
5 years ago (when V+ was introduced) 160GB drives cost more than 1TB drives do now, in bulk we pick Western Digital drives up for £32 a go and that's no where near the quantities that TiVo will buy them in!

Andrewcrawford23 04-11-2010 16:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35117710)
No ones arguing about a one off charge -- it's the monthly subscription that no one wants.

Are you saying, on top of the box charge, Sky charge a monthly subscription for the 1TB box? It's news to me if they do.

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Where does it mention TV channels in the coming soon bit of the title?

TIVO is coming soon, so unless the thread title is changed, surely, TIVO is within the thread title.

I thihnk sky charge 400 for the 1tb box but it is al speculation as to monthly charge i suspect they will go with one off charge but it wont be cheap it will be in the range of sky 350 to 500

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Originally Posted by trickytree (Post 35117708)
Well said!
This whole thread is pretty much off topic.
Why it can't be left open for discussion on the channels being added/removed and that's all we would still be on thread 1 and not thread 4.

Just create new threads for specific topics.
It's beoming increasingly difficult to search for things that may have been discussed before as everything is pretty much just held in this 1 thread!
anything importnt is found on mediaboy signature he post ever weeka udpateds lsit anytihng that hcanged is there if it something for that day it will conthunie ot be discussed and nrokaly have serperate thread as well but i see you point i have said to the mod before gie exacts to what is on and off topic it is pretty hard to say wha tis the title coing soon to virign tv is very specultive

mersey70 04-11-2010 17:37
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
The Sky 1TB box cost £249 and set up varies from £15 to £60.

muppetman11 04-11-2010 17:44
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35117728)
The Sky 1TB box cost £249 and set up varies from £15 to £60.

http://www.sky.com/shop/boxes/1TB


And there's no monthly charge to use the recording side , Virgin would be crazy to have a monthly charge for TiVo , I can understand the upfront cost for the hardware.

Perfect Choice 04-11-2010 17:57
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
This will be an upfront cost for sure for the base service we are used to and equivalent to V+, there may be options in terms of services which may be chargeable, Tivo already has this, see their web site.

Andrewcrawford23 04-11-2010 17:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by indie1982 (Post 35117715)
5 years ago (when V+ was introduced) 160GB drives cost more than 1TB drives do now, in bulk we pick Western Digital drives up for £32 a go and that's no where near the quantities that TiVo will buy them in!
PVR hard disk cost far more there specialy designed for PVR so aint as likely to fail as quickly you standard HDD oyu get at 30 quid will fail if used day in day out within 18-24 motnbhs the vr one are meant ot last 4-5 years

Perfect Choice 04-11-2010 18:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
With live TV being recorded all the time, the HDD is in continuous use so a long life HDD is key, you would not want to lose your recordings every 2 years say due to HDD failure so a high spec HDD required.

I would ideally like a £199 price plus £50 install say, but suspect VM will price match Sky at £249 but far better box solution of course!

Henkesghost 04-11-2010 18:12
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Erm any new channels coming soon?

Andrewcrawford23 04-11-2010 18:16
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35117747)
Erm any new channels coming soon?
nothing it all went quiet the last i heard they are still negetiotiing mostly hd hannels ITV being the biggest one but nt heard any uodate on it

muppetman11 04-11-2010 18:52
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35117749)
nothing it all went quiet the last i heard they are still negetiotiing mostly hd hannels ITV being the biggest one but nt heard any uodate on it
My media contact is still saying ITV Hd channels this month.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35117743)
With live TV being recorded all the time, the HDD is in continuous use so a long life HDD is key, you would not want to lose your recordings every 2 years say due to HDD failure so a high spec HDD required.

I would ideally like a £199 price plus £50 install say, but suspect VM will price match Sky at £249 but far better box solution of course!
I would pay 249 + 30 install if there was no monthly fee. The remote record seems a great feature even better if you can remote record from iPhone , Android Blackberry etc.

TheDon 04-11-2010 18:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35117742)
PVR hard disk cost far more there specialy designed for PVR so aint as likely to fail as quickly you standard HDD oyu get at 30 quid will fail if used day in day out within 18-24 motnbhs the vr one are meant ot last 4-5 years
Strange considering the HDD inside the normal V+ is just a standard OEM hard drive (Western Digital Caviar Green).

There's nothing out of the ordinary with the hdds in PVRs, nothing that you can't get in a consumer level unit seeing as you can buy enterprise level hard drives from a huge amount of places. Remember that enterprise level hard drives have performance requirements far in excess of storing video.

There are a couple of ranges that are aimed at PVRs (Seagate DB35 and Maxtor QuickView) but again, they contain nothing that you can't find in other consumer level drives, just the usual temperature and error diagnostics that you'll find in any enterprise level drive, they're just marked up.

indie1982 04-11-2010 19:40
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
They are essentially the same hardware with the higher MTBF guarantee by the manufacturer...

Andrewcrawford23 04-11-2010 19:43
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35117764)
Strange considering the HDD inside the normal V+ is just a standard OEM hard drive (Western Digital Caviar Green).

There's nothing out of the ordinary with the hdds in PVRs, nothing that you can't get in a consumer level unit seeing as you can buy enterprise level hard drives from a huge amount of places. Remember that enterprise level hard drives have performance requirements far in excess of storing video.

There are a couple of ranges that are aimed at PVRs (Seagate DB35 and Maxtor QuickView) but again, they contain nothing that you can't find in other consumer level drives, just the usual temperature and error diagnostics that you'll find in any enterprise level drive, they're just marked up.
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=615 <-- PVR HDD

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=733 <-- desktop hdd

there is a difference and the pvr ones are more costly because there are designed to last longer ie not being affected by tempruate like normal hard disj. you wont notice the differnec eif you open the v+ or skyhd box up they look the same to normal hdd but the itnernals are different

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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35117750)
My media contact is still saying ITV Hd channels this month.

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I would pay 249 + 30 install if there was no monthly fee. The remote record seems a great feature even better if you can remote record from iPhone , Android Blackberry etc.
the last tiem i spoek to my source they suggest nov/dec with hopes for to launch when itv3/4 laucnh on sky i am hoping it is means i cna watch rangers man utd in hd :D

Media Boy UK 04-11-2010 19:48
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. IV
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35117778)
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=615 <-- PVR HDD

http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=733 <-- desktop hdd

there is a difference and the pvr ones are more costly because there are designed to last longer ie not being affected by tempruate like normal hard disj. you wont notice the differnec eif you open the v+ or skyhd box up they look the same to normal hdd but the itnernals are different

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the last tiem i spoek to my source they suggest nov/dec with hopes for to launch when itv3/4 laucnh on sky i am hoping it is means i cna watch rangers man utd in hd :D
Do you know when BBC ALBA will launch (For the Saturday night SPL game)?


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