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passingbat 03-08-2013 17:20
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Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35605297)
Make of it what you will but I have been around a few other forums and the same message seems to be coming over from VirginMedia customer service:

"We have definitely got BT Sports. We had to hold out the longest to get the best deal and should be no price change for those on top tier packages. Official announcement confirming this expected by the end of next week"
Just to throw a probably unpopular thought into the discussions here: If VM have done a deal to include BT sports FOC in XL and VIP, I would imagine it will have cost them more than they were paying ESPN. That would deplete available funds for the missing non sports channels that everyone is clamouring for, namely Sky Atlantic and Universal HD. Do they become even less of a future possibility for addition to VM?

Horizon 03-08-2013 17:20
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Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35605305)
I had read that elsewhere as well but I wanted to see if somebody else could confirm it. I had a feeling this would happen. I'm gonna remain skeptical until it's confirmed in writing...but things may be starting to look up!
You should remain skeptical, a lot of rubbish is floating around.

Perhaps most people on this thread are unaware that Liberty Global, who now own VM, had their Q2 results webcast yesterday.

Mike Fries, Liberty's CEO, mentioned BT Sports and in a nutshell, there is no agreement for the BT sports channels to come onto cable.

Fries explained that he invited BT's CEO and Sky's CEO to meet him and the new VM management board in London last week. Despite the face-to-face contact, no agreement was reached to get the BT channels. Fries hopes to get them in the future but only at the right price, as he perceives it to be.

Another interesting tit bit was to do with Horizon, Liberty's own cable box software which is launching in Ireland and Germany now. Fries explained that he demoed a cloud based version of Horizon, with the hope of eventually doing away with cable boxes altogether.

gba93 03-08-2013 17:21
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
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Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35605315)
agreed.

tell Colin too that. let's not forget he stated it all, afterall. i don't want to get the blame (again)
If I recall correctly you originally started it by calling MB a liar which didn't enamour you to the vast majority of forum members and blotted your copybook for future posts - but luckily as you are now "giving it a rest" we can all go back to respecting each others contribution even if we don't agree with it

thegrid 03-08-2013 17:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35605324)
Just to throw a probably unpopular thought into the discussions here: If VM have done a deal to include BT sports FOC in XL and VIP, I would imagine it will have cost them more than they were paying ESPN. That would deplete available funds for the missing non sports channels that everyone is clamouring for, namely Sky Atlantic and Universal HD. Do they become even less of a future possibility for addition to VM?
Perhaps but, it could also cause a surge of customers to move to XL which would increase profit..It's all swings and roundabouts :)

howardmicks 03-08-2013 17:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35605161)
I could be wrong (apologies if so) but from your earlier posts regarding your conversation with the CEO's office, it seems as if a deal is going to happen; the information you got was enough to make you stay rather than switch to Sky, which at the time, you were on the verge of doing. But given that other people are moving to Sky, which surely the CEO's office know about and should be concerned about, what is the hold up? Did they give you an explanation or a hint of what it is?

It seems strange that VM CEO's office could persuade you to stay, whilst seeing other customers defecting to Sky. Something doesn't add up.
Soz for the delay been offline,you are right I was on the verge of moving back to sky.over the years I had all 3 providers and out of the 3 I do prefer vm.it wasnt the fact we lost espn it was the fact we lost 4 big channels that have devalued the xl pack and quite frankly the VIP as well and still waiting for sky Atlantic and universal hd just to name a couple.A certain person no here as twisted what some of us as said regarding alternatives,NOTHING CAN REPLACE ESPN BAT BT SPORTS but I was disappointed that vm didn't sign up a couple of the big missing channels especially sky Atlantic whilst they are still in talks.Again these were by no means ADEQUATE REPLACEMENTS but it certainly would have proven talks eventually get somewhere.
My change of heart is down to a number of things loyalty,customer service,tivo and the all round package,I always believe loyalty is rewarded and regarding customer service there are not many companies out there that when you send a email to the ceo's office and you get a response let alone a phone call,sky don't do it and bt certainly don't.
When I received my call I was hopenly honest was listened to and whilst nothing was guaranteed she was at least honest made notes and actually very complementary towards a couple of my suggestions in particular to the lack of communication between customers and vm,I explained that a lot of the anger was down to the fact some customers still didn't know till they turned over to watch espn that it had gone.BT SPORTS IS THERE TOP PRIOTY and I do believe a deal will be in place very soon.what we do have to understand that even when a deal is sign they do not flick a switch and there on even than as a time frame.ITV HD channels is proof of that.
Yes I did get very generous discount but no disrespect to anyone on here I would like to keep to myself but I will say my loyalty as very much been rewarded ;)
The fact the vm are letting customers out of there contracts doesn't mean they have Given up if anything it's just proves my point regarding customer service,as she said to me we want happy customers and whilst we don't want customers to leave we fully understand there frustration.
I hope this clarifies a few things for people and whatever you all choose I hope it's the right one for you,but remember don't always go with your first instinct think about it and weigh up the big picture.
Jesus my arm is starting to ache here :)

Mad Max 03-08-2013 17:25
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Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35605294)
Could we engineer invites to more weddings, birthday parties, bar mitzvah's for him ??

What about bringing Guy Fawkes forward a few months.....:D

howardmicks 03-08-2013 17:25
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35605172)
Yes but you have to remember Howard is a very nice man and loyal to VM, i think he got a years supply of popcorn to go with Sky Movies....:D
Thanks bud,how did you know about the popcorn.trucks coming Monday ;)

young_timbo 03-08-2013 17:26
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Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35605327)
Perhaps but, it could also cause a surge of customers to move to XL which would increase profit..It's all swings and roundabouts :)
That's the point i made the other day. when somebody told me it was "good business sense" for Virgin not to get it. me and my household want the VIP, but only if it has BT Sports. if it doesn't we will opt for the bare minimum custom setup that includes HD Sky Sports, and use the savings to pay BT Sports via sky freesat. Probably cut about £30 off the bill. So they will actually make much less money off me personally if they don't get BT Sports.

Mad Max 03-08-2013 17:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605331)
Thanks bud,how did you know about the popcorn.trucks coming Monday ;)
I have my insiders young sir......:cool:

thegrid 03-08-2013 17:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605329)
Soz for the delay been offline,you are right I was on the verge of moving back to sky.over the years I had all 3 providers and out of the 3 I do prefer vm.it wasnt the fact we lost espn it was the fact we lost 4 big channels that have devalued the xl pack and quite frankly the VIP as well and still waiting for sky Atlantic and universal hd just to name a couple.A certain person no here as twisted what some of us as said regarding alternatives,NOTHING CAN REPLACE ESPN BAT BT SPORTS but I was disappointed that vm didn't sign up a couple of the big missing channels especially sky Atlantic whilst they are still in talks.Again these were by no means ADEQUATE REPLACEMENTS but it certainly would have proven talks eventually get somewhere.
My change of heart is down to a number of things loyalty,customer service,tivo and the all round package,I always believe loyalty is rewarded and regarding customer service there are not many companies out there that when you send a email to the ceo's office and you get a response let alone a phone call,sky don't do it and bt certainly don't.
When I received my call I was hopenly honest was listened to and whilst nothing was guaranteed she was at least honest made notes and actually very complementary towards a couple of my suggestions in particular to the lack of communication between customers and vm,I explained that a lot of the anger was down to the fact some customers still didn't know till they turned over to watch espn that it had gone.BT SPORTS IS THERE TOP PRIOTY and I do believe a deal will be in place very soon.what we do have to understand that even when a deal is sign they do not flick a switch and there on even than as a time frame.ITV HD channels is proof of that.
Yes I did get very generous discount but no disrespect to anyone on here I would like to keep to myself but I will say my loyalty as very much been rewarded ;)
The fact the vm are letting customers out of there contracts doesn't mean they have Given up if anything it's just proves my point regarding customer service,as she said to me we want happy customers and whilst we don't want customers to leave we fully understand there frustration.
I hope this clarifies a few things for people and whatever you all choose I hope it's the right one for you,but remember don't always go with your first instinct think about it and weigh up the big picture.
Jesus my arm is starting to ache here :)
I reckon Liberty Global has altered the mentality at VM. I think rewarding Loyalty is the way they're going about things and if that's the case, things (eventually) should get better. :)

colin25 03-08-2013 17:29
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Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35605335)
I reckon Liberty Global has altered the mentality at VM. I think rewarding Loyalty is the way they're going about things and if that's the case, things (eventually) should get better. :)
that would go against the british ethos of ripping the loyal customer off...so if it happens, it would be good.

Might encourage positive reinforcement elsewhere :D

thegrid 03-08-2013 17:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
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Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35605332)
That's the point i made the other day. when somebody told me it was "good business sense" for Virgin not to get it. me and my household want the VIP, but only if it has BT Sports. if it doesn't we will opt for the bare minimum custom setup that includes HD Sky Sports, and use the savings to pay BT Sports via sky freesat. Probably cut about £30 off the bill. So they will actually make much less money off me personally if they don't get BT Sports.
At the end of the day, they have to get the right combination of making the shareholders happy and making the customers happy. I suppose for this, they need to take more time negotiating for the best deal for everybody.

howardmicks 03-08-2013 17:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35605332)
That's the point i made the other day. when somebody told me it was "good business sense" for Virgin not to get it. me and my household want the VIP, but only if it has BT Sports. if it doesn't we will opt for the bare minimum custom setup that includes HD Sky Sports, and use the savings to pay BT Sports via sky freesat. Probably cut about £30 off the bill. So they will actually make much less money off me personally if they don't get BT Sports.
Would you allow me to ring sky on your behalf and get you a deal,so you can go and annoy the people in there forum instead :mad:

thegrid 03-08-2013 17:32
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35605338)
that would go against the british ethos of ripping the loyal customer off...so if it happens, it would be good.

Might encourage positive reinforcement elsewhere :D
Yeah, it would. Virgin Media can make decisions but the final say has to come from Liberty Global HQ in London. (Why their HQ is in London is beyond me)

gba93 03-08-2013 17:34
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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605342)
Would you allow me to ring sky on your behalf and get you a deal,so you can go and annoy the people in there forum instead :mad:
I'd be happy to contribute to the cost of the call if it helps :)

howardmicks 03-08-2013 17:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35605332)
That's the point i made the other day. when somebody told me it was "good business sense" for Virgin not to get it. me and my household want the VIP, but only if it has BT Sports. if it doesn't we will opt for the bare minimum custom setup that includes HD Sky Sports, and use the savings to pay BT Sports via sky freesat. Probably cut about £30 off the bill. So they will actually make much less money off me personally if they don't get BT Sports.
I must have missed something I looking back thru pages and pages on here and I can not recall anyone saying IT MAKES GOOD BUSINESS SENSE are you getting confused with a different forum :confused:

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Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35605346)
I'd be happy to contribute to the cost of the call if it helps :)
Think half this forum would contribute to Is sky package never mind phone call ;)

Horizon 03-08-2013 17:40
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Originally Posted by thegrid (Post 35605344)
Yeah, it would. Virgin Media can make decisions but the final say has to come from Liberty Global HQ in London. (Why their HQ is in London is beyond me)
Their real HQ is in Denver, Colorado. This is where Mike Fries and John Malone (Liberty's majority owner) are based. For tax reasons, the HQ is now listed in London. In a sort of way, Liberty has become a subsidary of VM.

gba93 03-08-2013 17:40
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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605347)
Think half this forum would contribute to Is sky package never mind phone call ;)
I'm sure you're right but half might be an under-estimate.

colin25 03-08-2013 17:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605347)
I must have missed something I looking back thru pages and pages on here and I can not recall anyone saying IT MAKES GOOD BUSINESS SENSE are you getting confused with a different forum :confused:

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Think half this forum would contribute to Is sky package never mind phone call ;)
Calm down..I am happy to contribute to the phone call cost ( 3p/1,000?), but not sure about the whole package...he might enjoy it :D

thegrid 03-08-2013 17:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35605352)
Their real HQ is in Denver, Colorado. This is where Mike Fries and John Malone (Liberty's majority owner) are based. For tax reasons, the HQ is now listed in London. In a sort of way, Liberty has become a subsidary of VM.
I did wonder that. Thanks for clearing that up. :)

howardmicks 03-08-2013 17:43
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Whoops think I've upset bt they have just starting following me on twitter,could have a lot to do with the bt sucks as my avatar @btcare that's a joke for a start

thegrid 03-08-2013 17:44
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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605357)
Whoops think I've upset bt they have just starting following me on twitter,could have a lot to do with the bt sucks as my avatar @btcare that's a joke for a start
lol. good luck wriggling out of that one! :)

howardmicks 03-08-2013 17:44
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35605354)
Calm down..I am happy to contribute to the phone call cost ( 3p/1,000?), but not sure about the whole package...he might enjoy it :D
I doubt it one would suspect he would still find something to complain about :)

Hugh 03-08-2013 17:48
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Let's focus on the topic, not pesonalities, please - it's getting close to crossing the line from banter to hectoring.

johnasimmons 03-08-2013 17:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35605363)
Let's focus on the topic, not pesonalities, please - it's getting close to crossing the line from banter to hectoring.
:clap::clap:

colin25 03-08-2013 17:55
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35605363)
Let's focus on the topic, not pesonalities, please - it's getting close to crossing the line from banter to hectoring.
Sorry Hector :(

Chris 03-08-2013 18:21
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Can you all please stop reporting posts in this thread, unless they are *seriously* abusive or represent some other major breach of the forum rules. We are getting fed up of members using the report post button simply as a means of feuding with each other and are not far off using the infractions system to put a stop to it if you can't stop yourselves.

This thread is temporarily closed so you all get a chance to read this warning without it vanishing off the last page.


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I am re-opening the thread now. Please be nice to each other.

gba93 03-08-2013 18:25
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35605377)
I am re-opening the thread now. Please be nice to each other.
Apologies where required.

howardmicks 03-08-2013 18:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35605377)
Can you all please stop reporting posts in this thread, unless they are *seriously* abusive or represent some other major breach of the forum rules. We are getting fed up of members using the report post button simply as a means of feuding with each other and are not far off using the infractions system to put a stop to it if you can't stop yourselves.

This thread is temporarily closed so you all get a chance to read this warning without it vanishing off the last page.


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I am re-opening the thread now. Please be nice to each other.
My I be the first to apologise if any way my posts have caused this and if any of my post have caused offence to anyone they certain wasn't ment to

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Just had this tweet from bt

@BTCare: @Howardmicks issue so its not a case of withholding it, I would advise putting your concerns to your provider to get it resolved.

colin25 03-08-2013 18:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35605377)
Can you all please stop reporting posts in this thread, unless they are *seriously* abusive or represent some other major breach of the forum rules. We are getting fed up of members using the report post button simply as a means of feuding with each other and are not far off using the infractions system to put a stop to it if you can't stop yourselves.

This thread is temporarily closed so you all get a chance to read this warning without it vanishing off the last page.


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I am re-opening the thread now. Please be nice to each other.
Yes, sorry again

Ben B 03-08-2013 18:30
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Could be worse, could be a TWC viewer in the US not being able to watch CBS, that'd be like all the VM viewers losing ITV!

http://twcconversations.com/dispute/cbs/

MalteseFalcon 03-08-2013 18:34
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Sorry if I did anything untoward. Although suspect I would have been hit first had I done so.

Anyway, back on topic. Looking forward to seeing what happens with regards to new channels. Relative called retentions today and she was told that BT would be launching in time for the new season. Whether that was to keep her or not I don't know. But the more Virgin say it is on the way, the more optimistic we have to be really.

colin25 03-08-2013 18:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35605396)
Could be worse, could be a TWC viewer in the US not being able to watch CBS, that'd be like all the VM viewers losing ITV!

http://twcconversations.com/dispute/cbs/
interesting. from quick read, their customers support the stance

Lostlam 03-08-2013 18:38
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Is there going to be any update about BT Sports coming to VM or not?

ocav 03-08-2013 18:39
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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605393)
[/COLOR]Just had this tweet from bt

@BTCare: @Howardmicks issue so its not a case of withholding it, I would advise putting your concerns to your provider to get it resolved.
Just replied to that tweet, im not quite sure how them complaining to Ofcom is not their issue...

denphone 03-08-2013 18:42
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Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35605400)
Is there going to be any update about BT Sports coming to VM or not?
Maybe , maybe not.:)

Lostlam 03-08-2013 18:44
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35605404)
Maybe , maybe not.:)
LOL!

The VM forums are stating that VM have agreed a deal with BT to carry BT Sports, but it won't be on the XL package. The delay is because they are trying to get the best deal for their customers.

They better pull the trigger sooner rather than later.

howardmicks 03-08-2013 18:46
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Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35605408)
LOL!

The VM forums are stating that VM have agreed a deal with BT to carry BT Sports, but it won't be on the XL package. The delay is because they are trying to get the best deal for their customers.

They better pull the trigger sooner rather than later.
Any chance of a link bud can't seem to find it

Lostlam 03-08-2013 18:49
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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605412)
Any chance of a link bud can't seem to find it
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...931534/page/27

Read stroad's post. Rumours are it will be confirmed at the end of next week.

colin25 03-08-2013 18:53
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Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35605413)
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...931534/page/27

Read stroad's post. Rumours are it will be confirmed at the end of next week.
Someone told me that top package was XL and VIP...if true, then XL get it

denphone 03-08-2013 18:54
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35605415)
Someone told me that top package was XL and VIP...if true, then XL get it
But the caveat being if its true and thus not being just another bit of bull baloney.

Lostlam 03-08-2013 18:57
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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35605415)
Someone told me that top package was XL and VIP...if true, then XL get it
As far as I am aware, it will be a standalone package like on Sky.

Gavin-D 03-08-2013 18:58
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Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35605413)
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...931534/page/27

Read stroad's post. Rumours are it will be confirmed at the end of next week.
And 2 weeks ago we were told on here it would be announced last week and we are still waiting

Lostlam 03-08-2013 19:00
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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35605419)
And 2 weeks ago we were told on here it would be announced last week and we are still waiting
Very true mate, but that just shows the information touted before was wrong. Hopefully, this info has some weight to it, as it is shocking VM haven't come out to clear the situation up.

denphone 03-08-2013 19:04
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Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35605422)
Very true mate, but that just shows the information touted before was wrong. Hopefully, this info has some weight to it, as it is shocking VM haven't come out to clear the situation up.
The trouble is Virgin have never been very good at communicating.

Lostlam 03-08-2013 19:06
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35605426)
The trouble is Virgin have never been very good at communicating.
I know mate. They say no news is good news, but not in this situation.

colin25 03-08-2013 19:06
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35605426)
The trouble is Virgin have never been very good at communicating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNHRONqCAB8

BT seem to agree with you :D

Hugh 03-08-2013 19:07
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The problem is if they are still negotiating, what is there to say besides we are still in talks?

Doug P 03-08-2013 19:08
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Still think not telling us something that is not certain is merely common sense not bad communication....

howardmicks 03-08-2013 19:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35605413)
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...931534/page/27

Read stroad's post. Rumours are it will be confirmed at the end of next week.
thanks for the link bud but until i see it written by a vm official i aint believing anything

denphone 03-08-2013 19:16
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35605429)
The problem is if they are still negotiating, what is there to say besides we are still in talks?
Well lets hope talks are concluded successfully before the start of the PL because if its still not available to Virgin by that time then l am afraid there is likely to be considerably more anger come that time.

Parlyboy 03-08-2013 19:18
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I was given online access to BT Sports by using my brothers account. Been watching it for a while now and i can't say I'm blown away. There are an awful lot of talking heads that annoy me. Matt Dawson is terrible and I just want to punch David James for his dreadful Sideshow Bob hairstyle.

Seriously lacking in content and I can't see where it might come from.

On another matter, the 4 test channel, anyone got any updates on what they might be? Are the still testing?

howardmicks 03-08-2013 19:18
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35605426)
The trouble is Virgin have never been very good at communicating.
part of my conversation with ceo`s office was about that,i suggusted using info boxes on tivo screen as one way.she liked that,need another way for customers without of course ;)

colin25 03-08-2013 19:22
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35605432)
Well lets hope talks are concluded successfully before the start of the PL because if its still not available to Virgin by that time then l am afraid there is likely to be considerably more anger come that time.
Who is playing the first game?

Maybe it is only one of the smaller teams :D

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Originally Posted by Parlyboy (Post 35605433)
I was given online access to BT Sports by using my brothers account. Been watching it for a while now and i can't say I'm blown away. There are an awful lot of talking heads that annoy me. Matt Dawson is terrible and I just want to punch David James for his dreadful Sideshow Bob hairstyle.
yes, i couldn't work out what it was, but..sideshow BOB, perfect description :D

Lostlam 03-08-2013 20:04
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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605431)
thanks for the link bud but until i see it written by a vm official i aint believing anything
Likewise mate, but I hope it has some substance.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35605435)
Who is playing the first game?
Not sure if that it is a joke, but it is Liverpool Vs a pass and move Stoke. :LOL:

colin25 03-08-2013 20:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35605461)
Likewise mate, but I hope it has some substance.

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Not sure if that it is a joke, but it is Liverpool Vs a pass and move Stoke. :LOL:
lol..yes, i was winding Den up...:D

But only jesting, though it is stoke, and hughes

nstokes 03-08-2013 20:10
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35605461)

Not sure if that it is a joke, but it is Liverpool Vs a pass and move Stoke. :LOL:
Its Stoke v some rubbish Mersyside team :D:D

Lostlam 03-08-2013 20:14
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35605464)
lol..yes, i was winding Den up...:D

But only jesting, though it is stoke, and hughes
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35605466)
Its Stoke v some rubbish Mersyside team :D:D
I see the jokers are around tonight. Liverpool aren't what they used to be, let's put it that way. :LOL:

denphone 03-08-2013 20:19
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
They cannot wind me up my old marra's as they don't call me Teflon den for nothing.:D

nstokes 03-08-2013 20:22
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35605472)
They cannot wind me up my old marra's as they don't call me Teflon den for nothing.:D
I think we are getting to you my Old Den :D:D

newapollo 03-08-2013 20:23
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
I agree they aren't what they used to be - Liverpool Ladies v Arsenal live now on BTSport 2 - Liverpool are losing 1-0 http://lsh.streamhunter.eu/static/po...503977640.html

nstokes 03-08-2013 20:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by newapollo (Post 35605474)
I agree they aren't what they used to be - Liverpool Ladies v Arsenal live now on BTSport 2 - Liverpool are losing 1-0 http://lsh.streamhunter.eu/static/po...503977640.html
You see what you missing out on Den. BT Sport are showing a another Liverpool game.

young_timbo 03-08-2013 20:28
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605347)
I must have missed something I looking back thru pages and pages on here and I can not recall anyone saying IT MAKES GOOD BUSINESS SENSE are you getting confused with a different forum :confused:

---------- Post added at 16:36 ---------- Previous post was at 16:34 ----------
You missed it. Maybe 3 or 4 days ago the guy with the Crystal Palace avatar said just that down to the quote. That it makes good business sense not to get BT Sport. It has been my favourite moment on the forum so far due to the sheer level of lunacy attached to it. And all his cronies came right in and all backed him up of course. Read back through my post history because i responded to it a couple of times. You simply missed it, but thankfully you acknowledge you must have missed it so no worries. just responding to your post to confirm i've seen it.

I am never wrong about any matters to do with football broadcasting so please do not inform me I have got the wrong forum though because it's annoying. I'm not stupid, I know which forum is which :D

howardmicks 03-08-2013 20:33
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35605476)
You see what you missing out on Den. BT Sport are showing a another Liverpool game.
It's okay we have Sesame Street,there at old Trafford this week with the Rest of the muppets :)
And the letters are s c and u m and the numbers are 5 and 3 lol

---------- Post added at 19:33 ---------- Previous post was at 19:29 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35605477)
You missed it. Maybe 3 or 4 days ago the guy with the Crystal Palace avatar said just that down to the quote. That it makes good business sense not to get BT Sport. It has been my favourite moment on the forum so far due to the sheer level of lunacy attached to it. And all his cronies came right in and all backed him up of course. Read back through my post history because i responded to it a couple of times. You simply missed it, but thankfully you acknowledge you must have missed it so no worries. just responding to your post to confirm i've seen it.

I am never wrong about any matters to do with football broadcasting so please do not inform me I have got the wrong forum though because it's annoying. I'm not stupid, I know which forum is which :D
Okay no worries been a lot of posts since then :)

young_timbo 03-08-2013 20:36
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35605377)
Can you all please stop reporting posts in this thread, unless they are *seriously* abusive or represent some other major breach of the forum rules. We are getting fed up of members using the report post button simply as a means of feuding with each other and are not far off using the infractions system to put a stop to it if you can't stop yourselves.

This thread is temporarily closed so you all get a chance to read this warning without it vanishing off the last page.


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I am re-opening the thread now. Please be nice to each other.
quite pleased to read this. to see things are in order. seemed like some posters get away with anything and others get told off. personally i've never once used the report post function, so i know he isn't talking about me and i am not in any trouble at all.

howardmicks 03-08-2013 20:40
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by young_timbo (Post 35605483)
quite pleased to read this. to see things are in order. seemed like some posters get away with anything and others get told off. personally i've never once used the report post function, so i know he isn't talking about me and i am not in any trouble at all.
Must admit never have myself,only jesting with you before,descent bunch of folks on here and we all give each other stick ;)

nstokes 03-08-2013 20:41
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605478)
It's okay we have Sesame Street,there at old Trafford this week with the Rest of the muppets :)
And the letters are s c and u m and the numbers are 5 and 3 lol
Thats ok i get that your hurt. It is 20-18 after all :D:D

howardmicks 03-08-2013 20:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35605486)
Thats ok i get that your hurt. It is 20-18 after all :D:D
Low blow ;)

denphone 03-08-2013 20:46
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35605476)
You see what you missing out on Den. BT Sport are showing a another Liverpool game.
l am quite enjoying a cooking programme at this present moment so to be perfectly honest l ain't missing it.:)

howardmicks 03-08-2013 20:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35605492)
l am quite enjoying a cooking programme at this present moment so to be perfectly honest l ain't missing it.:)
Bt sucks remember ;)

denphone 03-08-2013 20:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605493)
Bt sucks remember ;)
Indeed but it seems Mr Stokes has divided loyalty's again and is getting himself into a right fine mess again..:waving:

nstokes 03-08-2013 20:51
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605488)
Low blow ;)
Indeed :)

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35605492)
l am quite enjoying a cooking programme at this present moment so to be perfectly honest l ain't missing it.:)
Den the chef? :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605493)
Bt sucks remember ;)
Your just jel because its not on VM :D

ocav 03-08-2013 20:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
BT Sport looks very professional based on what I've seen from that stream. Not a playout cock-up in sight!

And then Helen Skelton came on. Thats worth the £15 a month for it alone.

Except for at 8pm in the evening she was telling us what was coming up on BT Sport "this afternoon"

OLD BOY 03-08-2013 20:58
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
I do have to say that everyone needs to calm down about this.

What may have happened is as follows:

1. VM 'accidently' put a board up on their TV platform indicating that BT Sport is coming soon. Bomber AF reveals the strategy. This leads to BT deciding that VM has breached the confidential agreement reached between them and reneges on the arrangement to provide BT Sports on 1 August. After all, VM viewers had become convinced that they would get the channels from day 1, so they were not inclined to jump ship to BT.

2. Then there is all the hysteria on this thread about how dreadful VM are for not bringing us BT Sport, with people threatening to ditch the platform. This just encourages BT to wait a bit longer in the expectation that those who are impatient will come over to them. BT have nothing to lose by waiting.

So perhaps we should all just shut up about this and calm this thread down. While BT see the amount of anger on here it will just keep the interim window open to try and get more customers.

So if anyone on here really is thinking of jumping, could they please do so now rather than just whingeing on about it. Once the thread calms, perhaps BT will relent. But not before, IMHO.

If you really want the channel here before the 17th, Mum's the word. Ignore the agitators that are just trying to stir you up.

eugene 03-08-2013 20:58
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
BT are clearly picking a fight with Virgin over broadband. I support Virgin fighting back. The only winner is Sky who BT claim to want to compete with. They've picked the wrong battle. Keep up the good work Media Boy.

OLD BOY 03-08-2013 21:00
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostlam (Post 35605400)
Is there going to be any update about BT Sports coming to VM or not?
They are in talks. Nothing has changed.

nstokes 03-08-2013 21:00
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
I do wonder why BomberAF hasnt posted to say what happened

OLD BOY 03-08-2013 21:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35605502)
I do wonder why BomberAF hasnt posted to say what happened
He's probably been disciplined by VM for screwing up. Quite right too.

nstokes 03-08-2013 21:06
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35605504)
He's probably been disciplined by VM for screwing up. Quite right too.
There was nothing to actually say he worked for VM and also to say it was

denphone 03-08-2013 21:13
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35605505)
There was nothing to actually say he worked for VM and also to say it was
Indeed as it could easily be someone on this forum who used another name to post and cover his tracks.;)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35605504)
He's probably been disciplined by VM for screwing up. Quite right too.
Personally l don't think he worked for Virgin.

ocav 03-08-2013 21:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Actually I believe he said he new a thing or two about the footballs deals at Sky...

OLD BOY 03-08-2013 21:17
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35605505)
There was nothing to actually say he worked for VM and also to say it was
So you think he was just making it up, then? I suppose that is possible. But it sounded credible information at the time.

denphone 03-08-2013 21:20
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35605511)
So you think he was just making it up, then? I suppose that is possible. But it sounded credible information at the time.
Was it credible though as he had not posted for quite a while before then and then suddenly out of the blue decided to post huge headlined information that would set the tongues wagging and the minds thinking without any credible source to back it up.

gba93 03-08-2013 21:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35605512)
Was it credible though as he had not posted for quite a while before then and then suddenly out of the blue decided to post huge headlined information that would set the tongues wagging and the minds thinking.
Could it have been a VM plant (cue jokes) to find out the strength of feeling for/against BT Sports and what price would be acceptable?

denphone 03-08-2013 21:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35605516)
Could it have been a VM plant (cue jokes) to find out the strength of feeling for/against BT Sports and what price would be acceptable?
Possible but unlikely in my mind gba.

nstokes 03-08-2013 21:28
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35605511)
So you think he was just making it up, then? I suppose that is possible. But it sounded credible information at the time.
Normally im not to call someone a lier but as he hasnt been back on and posted then maybe this time he did lie. If he didnt have anything to hide then why stay away?

denphone 03-08-2013 21:31
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
He did lurk in the background a few days ago on this forum but he did not come out into the open to post again.

piquet41 03-08-2013 21:37
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35605499)
I do have to say that everyone needs to calm down about this.

What may have happened is as follows:

1. VM 'accidently' put a board up on their TV platform indicating that BT Sport is coming soon. Bomber AF reveals the strategy. This leads to BT deciding that VM has breached the confidential agreement reached between them and reneges on the arrangement to provide BT Sports on 1 August. After all, VM viewers had become convinced that they would get the channels from day 1, so they were not inclined to jump ship to BT.

2. Then there is all the hysteria on this thread about how dreadful VM are for not bringing us BT Sport, with people threatening to ditch the platform. This just encourages BT to wait a bit longer in the expectation that those who are impatient will come over to them. BT have nothing to lose by waiting.

So perhaps we should all just shut up about this and calm this thread down. While BT see the amount of anger on here it will just keep the interim window open to try and get more customers.

So if anyone on here really is thinking of jumping, could they please do so now rather than just whingeing on about it. Once the thread calms, perhaps BT will relent. But not before, IMHO.

If you really want the channel here before the 17th, Mum's the word. Ignore the agitators that are just trying to stir you up.
Totally agree, well said.

TAZMANUK 03-08-2013 21:37
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
http://recombu.com/digital/news/virg...le_M11946.html

VirginMediaPhil 03-08-2013 21:46
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
I somehow doubt that BT are reading or even have knowledge of this forum and then making decisions based on this thread. If that was true surely Virgin Media would be contacting the forum to take these posts down.

jj20x 03-08-2013 21:52
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35605511)
So you think he was just making it up, then? I suppose that is possible. But it sounded credible information at the time.
It sounded more self contradictory than credible.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BomberAF (Post 35592498)
Don't see what is so hard to believe? SKY and BT will have made an agreement with VM to show their respected channels, but not until they have marketed them first. Although the post doesn't make clear I am not saying the VM have agreed to it as such, I am saying that they don't have too much of a say in it.
I kinda stopped reading after he suggested that Sky and BT had made an agreement with VM that VM hadn't actually agreed to...

howardmicks 03-08-2013 22:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35605527)
It sounded more self contradictory than credible.



I kinda stopped reading after he suggested that Sky and BT had made an agreement with VM that VM hadn't actually agreed to...
Me to,no company in the right mind would ever do that

Dave42 03-08-2013 22:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605531)
Me to,no company in the right mind would ever do that
100% correct Howard that was give away line in bombers post

Henkesghost 03-08-2013 22:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Perhaps BomberAF was some mischief makers alias?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/08/42.jpg

geordiechris 03-08-2013 22:31
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Might he have been HD Boy using a pseudonym? lol

jj20x 03-08-2013 22:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605531)
Me to,no company in the right mind would ever do that
Yes but apart from the suggestion being unrealistic, he was saying an agreement had been reached with VM but also saying VM hadn't agreed to it.. so actually not an agreement at all.

Aguero9320 03-08-2013 22:42
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35605297)
Make of it what you will but I have been around a few other forums and the same message seems to be coming over from VirginMedia customer service:

"We have definitely got BT Sports. We had to hold out the longest to get the best deal and should be no price change for those on top tier packages. Official announcement confirming this expected by the end of next week"
I hope we get BT Sport soon; some decent content is on them channels. Luckily, most of Manchester City's big games are on Sky Sports; I have that package.

howardmicks 03-08-2013 22:45
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35605543)
I hope we get BT Sport soon; some decent content is on them channels. Luckily, most of Manchester City's big games are on Sky Sports; I have that package.
Think you will have gud season bud ?

Aguero9320 03-08-2013 22:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35605545)
Think you will have gud season bud ?
Sure howard, I think my beloved City will lure the title away from the swamp that is Old Trafford

JohnR5573 03-08-2013 22:55
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 3.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 35603861)
I might be wrong, but I think it is done like this in the USA...
Quote:
Originally Posted by youeducated!timbo (Post 35605214)
that's because loads and loads are people are ringing up to cancel as Virgin haven't got BT SPort. might takes you hours to get through because i'll let you in on a little secret, there are loads and loads of Sports fans in the UK. The Premier League is the biggest most important product of any form that the country produces, and loads and loads of people want to watch it. And the other sports they show. That's why contrary to Cable Forum belief, it is a massive, massive big deal to not get the channels, it's horrific business and not 'good business for Virgin' at all. loads of people are leaving and even more will leave if they haven't got it on the 17th, and no absolutely other channel can adequately fill in for BT Sport. Because you can't watch live barclays premier league matches on Nick HD and Sky Atlantic, so everyone wants to leave.

Just like I said :)

(and was told by everyone I was wrong) :)
You are wrong, again. Football is not and never will be the most important product in the country. And yes I am a fan. Also everyone are not leaving, it will be a small percentage.
You need to find some kind of perspective in your outlook, and possibly think before you post After all you are educated as per your earlier post.


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