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denphone 08-11-2019 08:22
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36016453)
You have been told this multiple times , ESPN has no key UK rights and has a deal with BT for some of its US Sport so no chance of that.

Hulu still offers content from ABC , NBC , Fox and Warner so no chance of that anytime soonin its current form.
Its rather strange that OB who has been preaching to us all about the great virtues of streaming has suddenly got cold feet about Britbox and Disney+.:D

jfman 08-11-2019 09:14
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36016452)
It will be interesting to see what is on offer in the UK. In the US, there will also be the Hulu and ESPN strands available. Without these, Disney + will not be the draw that it is over the pond, although I guess it will still be popular.

According to the link below, 25% of Brits intend to subscribe to Disney+ when it launches over here. That's a pretty good start.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...ing-to-disney/
Software company selling a product to users who might use it for piracy asks customer base if they intend to subscribe to streaming services.

“Of course I do, M’Lud”.

I do agree though, if 16 million people subscribed on day 1 that would be a good start. It’s just extremely unlikely.

OLD BOY 08-11-2019 09:40
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36016453)
You have been told this multiple times , ESPN has no key UK rights and has a deal with BT for some of its US Sport so no chance of that.

Hulu still offers content from ABC , NBC , Fox and Warner so no chance of that anytime soonin its current form.
No need to get shirty, muppetman. I know that, and perhaps you should read my post again. All I said was that without ESPN and Hulu, Disney + won't be as popular.

I am well aware that we won't be getting these strands over here for the time being.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36016456)
Its rather strange that OB who has been preaching to us all about the great virtues of streaming has suddenly got cold feet about Britbox and Disney+.:D
Not at all. I have only said that streaming will ultimately take over from linear channels.

That doesn't mean that I will sign up to anything regardless of content.

Disney stuff is of no interest to me and Britbox will be full of old programmes I have already seen or I have no wish to see. Why would I subscribe to either?

You should know by now that I don't watch anything that doesn't hold any interest for me.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36016459)
Software company selling a product to users who might use it for piracy asks customer base if they intend to subscribe to streaming services.

“Of course I do, M’Lud”.

I do agree though, if 16 million people subscribed on day 1 that would be a good start. It’s just extremely unlikely.
I just provided a link for the information of forum members. Whether this turns out to be what happens is another matter. I tend to view surveys and opinion polls with rather a lot of caution.

jfman 08-11-2019 10:47
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Another search for the same survey gave an interesting result:

Some 32 per cent of consumers also said they have previously canceled a subscription because it was too hard to watch the show they like because of their location.


Which begs a question, along the lines of the point made by MM, is to they intend to subscribe to UK Disney+ or another version? Will that be sustainable long term or will they clamp down on it?

As someone who supports the free movement goods and services I’d totally support a scenario where I could subscribe to overseas services instead of ours.

denphone 08-11-2019 10:52
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36016470)
Another search for the same survey gave an interesting result:

Some 32 per cent of consumers also said they have previously canceled a subscription because it was too hard to watch the show they like because of their location.


Which begs a question, along the lines of the point made by MM, is to they intend to subscribe to UK Disney+ or another version? Will that be sustainable long term or will they clamp down on it?

As someone who supports the free movement goods and services I’d totally support a scenario where I could subscribe to overseas services instead of ours.
That great utopian world of streaming that OB describes is not looking so great after all.;)

Aguero9320 08-11-2019 12:06
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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36016443)
Disney+’s UK launch date now official: 31st March 2020.

http://whatsondisneyplus.com/disney-...on-march-31st/
It's believed the UK version of Disney+ will be priced at around £6 per month.

pip08456 08-11-2019 12:28
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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36016482)
It's believed the UK version of Disney+ will be priced at around £6 per month.
It is believed it will follow the Apple formula of just changing the currency sign. e.g. $6.99, £6.99, and €6.99

denphone 08-11-2019 12:41
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36016443)
Disney+’s UK launch date now official: 31st March 2020.

http://whatsondisneyplus.com/disney-...on-march-31st/
At launch, Disney+ will be available to stream from its offical website via the usual range of browsers, as well as via dedicated apps for Apple TV, Android devices, Google's Chromecast, iOS and iPadOS devices, PlayStation 4, Roku, and Xbox One consoles.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/disn...k-release-date

pip08456 08-11-2019 12:48
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36016470)
Another search for the same survey gave an interesting result:

Some 32 per cent of consumers also said they have previously canceled a subscription because it was too hard to watch the show they like because of their location.


Which begs a question, along the lines of the point made by MM, is to they intend to subscribe to UK Disney+ or another version? Will that be sustainable long term or will they clamp down on it?

As someone who supports the free movement goods and services I’d totally support a scenario where I could subscribe to overseas services instead of ours.
What other version will have what UK Disney+ hasn't? What people assume will be the case may be entirely wrong.[COLOR="Silver"]

Geo-locking (which I assume you are referring to) happen if Disney have contractual obligations with another company e.g. Netflix, and as Disney at least with Netflix has cancelled everything on can assume it has happened with others.

jfman 08-11-2019 13:18
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36016488)
What other version will have what UK Disney+ hasn't? What people assume will be the case may be entirely wrong.[COLOR="Silver"]

Geo-locking (which I assume you are referring to) happen if Disney have contractual obligations with another company e.g. Netflix, and as Disney at least with Netflix has cancelled everything on can assume it has happened with others.
MM has already indicated an exhaustive list of compelling content that will be bundled with Disney+ products in the USA that we will not get at outset.

How effective, or otherwise, geo-blocking is varies significantly between services. I recognise that it's a contractual obligation to try however the respondents (at least a sizable proportion) of the ExpressVPN survey will not subscribe if they don't get the version they want.

OLD BOY 08-11-2019 13:19
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36016472)
That great utopian world of streaming that OB describes is not looking so great after all.;)
I would imagine that the location issue relates to access to the internet and broadband speeds. Nothing new about that. It's all in hand and will not be such an issue in the short to medium term.

Legendkiller2k 08-11-2019 13:26
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36016486)
At launch, Disney+ will be available to stream from its offical website via the usual range of browsers, as well as via dedicated apps for Apple TV, Android devices, Google's Chromecast, iOS and iPadOS devices, PlayStation 4, Roku, and Xbox One consoles.

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/disn...k-release-date
Add firetv to that now as Disney and Amazon have kissed and made up.

jfman 08-11-2019 13:26
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36016493)
I would imagine that the location issue relates to access to the internet and broadband speeds. Nothing new about that. It's all in hand and will not be such an issue in the short to medium term.
The location issue relates to content not being available universally. Netflix USA contains significant amounts of content not available in the UK. I, and many others, have used. VPN services to access content not available in the UK to extract better value from streamers. They, obviously, would not approve.

OLD BOY 08-11-2019 13:47
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36016496)
The location issue relates to content not being available universally. Netflix USA contains significant amounts of content not available in the UK. I, and many others, have used. VPN services to access content not available in the UK to extract better value from streamers. They, obviously, would not approve.
I see, thank you; although I must say, our TV channels do not provide all the content available in the US either.

It will be nice if all this changes in the future and we are all able to benefit from true global services. It should be possible, as existing contractual commitments should be discharged within the next five years for the most part.

pip08456 08-11-2019 14:08
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36016492)
MM has already indicated an exhaustive list of compelling content that will be bundled with Disney+ products in the USA that we will not get at outset.

How effective, or otherwise, geo-blocking is varies significantly between services. I recognise that it's a contractual obligation to try however the respondents (at least a sizable proportion) of the ExpressVPN survey will not subscribe if they don't get the version they want.
Are you referring to ESPN & Hulu? The are Disney products just as Disney+ is. You seem confused over Disney (a company) and Disney+ (a product).

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36016496)
The location issue relates to content not being available universally. Netflix USA contains significant amounts of content not available in the UK. I, and many others, have used. VPN services to access content not available in the UK to extract better value from streamers. They, obviously, would not approve.
I think you'll find Disney+ content will be universally available that is why the relase is delayed in the UK and elsewhere.

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But in the UK, and almost all of Europe, the shining Disney media future is a bit further off. So why the extra wait? Simon Brew, founder and editor of Film Stories magazine, recently highlighted the licensing hurdles that Disney has to go through before a UK launch, and the most notable of those are to do with its existing contracts with European broadcasting behemoth Sky.
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