Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35980336)

Sounds like 26% are a bit thick.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35980337)

Agreed

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35980311)

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35980329)

Are you saying that foreign words and phrase haven't been incorporated into British culture. As they are foreign, it can hardly be classed as included in the English language. The French constantly complain about English words being included in their culture/language.


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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35980316)

We largely do though. The differences between British and most European cultures are quite superficial. Mostly similar values, shared history and a Judeo-Christian background. You don't have huge cultural disconnects if you're in Europe, talking to European people, eating European food or so on.

The differences people usually cite are small and involve stereotypes. I.E Germans are more logical or Southern Europeans more laid back.

If you're somebody coming from Asia the difference between Asian culture and European culture would be more pronounced than the different between British and European culture. They would lump us in with the continent quite easily.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35980313)

It’s exactly the same. That’s the way taxation and public spending work.



Which isn’t evidence based.



I agree racism and xenophobia get out the vote for UKIP and Vote Leave. I also agree many racists lack the self awareness to realise they are racist.

“I’m not a racist, but...”, as they say.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35980351)

and there in a flash, no deal is pretty much confirmed as dead. and the last weapon May had is gone.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...er-eu-confirms

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35980351)

and there in a flash, no deal is pretty much confirmed as dead. and the last weapon May had is gone.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...er-eu-confirms

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35980314)

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35980354)

and it would break the good Friday agreement a legally biding treaty

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35980355)

Exactly this (it's purposely designed to stop people airing their views under threat of being labelled a 'racist' and was successful for a number of years) or it is various forms of virtue signalling (they often get into this habit during their days at uni and one or two never grow out of it after entering the real world).

Listening to two of them trying to out trump each other about who is the more racist/anti racist between them is very tedious. I remember hearing one say that he'd got himself into "a prickly situation" and was immediately condemned as racist! This condemnation, of course, has to be done as loudly as possible in from of the max number of people to achieve the desired effect of the perpetrator.

Another person of a similar ilk thought it appropriate to walk around his local railway station demanding to know why none of the black staff were driving the trains, only white men. He completely ignored the fact that none of the drivers were women, but anti sexism in those days paid out less in PC brownie points.

Meanwhile, black people just got on with it in the face of actual racism.

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If this happens, I hope to God that this doesn't start up the troubles In Ireland again. Similarly, if we leave without a deal I suspect that Scotland may decide to try to become independent and rejoin the EU.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35980355)

Exactly this (it's purposely designed to stop people airing their views under threat of being labelled a 'racist' and was successful for a number of years) or it is various forms of virtue signalling (they often get into this habit during their days at uni and one or two never grow out of it after entering the real world).

Listening to two of them trying to out trump each other about who is the more racist/anti racist between them is very tedious. I remember hearing one say that he'd got himself into "a prickly situation" and was immediately condemned as racist! This condemnation, of course, has to be done as loudly as possible in from of the max number of people to achieve the desired effect of the perpetrator.

Another person of a similar ilk thought it appropriate to walk around his local railway station demanding to know why none of the black staff were driving the trains, only white men. He completely ignored the fact that none of the drivers were women, but anti sexism in those days paid out less in PC brownie points.

Meanwhile, black people just got on with it in the face of actual racism.

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If this happens, I hope to God that this doesn't start up the troubles In Ireland again. Similarly, if we leave without a deal I suspect that Scotland may decide to try to become independent and rejoin the EU.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35980355)

Exactly this (it's purposely designed to stop people airing their views under threat of being labelled a 'racist' and was successful for a number of years) or it is various forms of virtue signalling (they often get into this habit during their days at uni and one or two never grow out of it after entering the real world).

Listening to two of them trying to out trump each other about who is the more racist/anti racist between them is very tedious. I remember hearing one say that he'd got himself into "a prickly situation" and was immediately condemned as racist! This condemnation, of course, has to be done as loudly as possible in from of the max number of people to achieve the desired effect of the perpetrator.

Another person of a similar ilk thought it appropriate to walk around his local railway station demanding to know why none of the black staff were driving the trains, only white men. He completely ignored the fact that none of the drivers were women, but anti sexism in those days paid out less in PC brownie points.

Meanwhile, black people just got on with it in the face of actual racism.

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If this happens, I hope to God that this doesn't start up the troubles In Ireland again. Similarly, if we leave without a deal I suspect that Scotland may decide to try to become independent and rejoin the EU.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35980351)

and there in a flash, no deal is pretty much confirmed as dead. and the last weapon May had is gone.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...er-eu-confirms

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35980364)

You really think the EU would pay all that money to build and manage a hard border?

or are you suggesting the UK does it?

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35980349)

Regardless of what the position is with regards to the net contribution or otherwise of people living here, we do not want to be taking in any immigrants that do not contribute to the UK financially or otherwise. We are not and cannot ever be an international social security system.

The evidence which you seek is plainly human nature. As human beings we are tribal and territorial animals. Even the less intelligent creatures in the animal kingdom tend to only accept newcomers to their group on the proviso that there are no shortages of things like space, food, water etc.

To unilaterally describe UKIP supporters and those who voted leave as xenophobic and racist is an over simplification to the point of being offensive.