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Russ 29-06-2006 14:15
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlackDad
But he is the British No. 1.
I really don't think it is the case that when he doesn't play well he's referred to as Scottish rather than British. I think it is widely known that he is Britain's new up and coming tennis star and is Scottish.
But the media continues to use both Scottish and British. You don't think it's form-dependant? Let's wait until he's knocked out and see what they say then.

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Originally Posted by SlackDad
Have they themselves moaned about it.
I don't know - and it's not something to moan about really, merely an observation. Here is another example - why refer to her as Welsh? When Stephen Fry (for example) took over as host of HIGNFY, he wasn't introduced as an 'English comedian'.

It's all very trivial and is drifting off topic but I'm just pointing these things out as contributary factors as to why many celts feel alienated from the English (and thread like this spring up).

SlackDad 29-06-2006 14:17
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ D
But the media continues to use both Scottish and British. You don't think it's form-dependant? Let's wait until he's knocked out and see what they say then.
Fair enough.


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I don't know - and it's not something to moan about really, merely an observation. Here is another example - why refer to her as Welsh? When Stephen Fry (for example) took over as host of HIGNFY, he wasn't introduced as an 'English comedian'.

It's all very trivial and is drifting off topic but I'm just pointing these things out as contributary factors as to why many celts feel alienated from the English (and thread like this spring up).
As I said earlier I agreed with your general point :)

orangebird 29-06-2006 14:27
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
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Originally Posted by Russ D
<snip>

Not at all - there's no need to refer to to Welsh bands by their nationality
But if there's a chance of a welsh person/team 'winning' something, then they shoudn't be called british, but welsh?



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Completely missing the point I feel....
I didn't think there was much of a point to get tbh.

Russ 29-06-2006 14:29
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
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Originally Posted by orangebird
But if there's a chance of a welsh person/team 'winning' something, then they shoudn't be called british, but welsh?
They should be referred to as Welsh OR British and it should stay that way regardless of form! As is is now, when they win they're British, when they lose they're Welsh/Scottish/Irish.

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Originally Posted by orangebird
I didn't think there was much of a point to get tbh.
So don't reply then.

Stuart 29-06-2006 17:25
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
In the spirit of the thread: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06...rray_blog_war/

Same thing seems to be happening here..

orangebird 29-06-2006 17:34
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart C
In the spirit of the thread: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06...rray_blog_war/

Same thing seems to be happening here..
:LOL: nasty small minded englishmen. Yes, because there have been reports of these nasty small minded englishmen beating up kids and disabled people for wearing scotland football shirts.......











Oh, no, sorry, worng way round :erm::rolleyes:

SlackDad 29-06-2006 19:49
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ D
They should be referred to as Welsh OR British and it should stay that way regardless of form! As is is now, when they win they're British, when they lose they're Welsh/Scottish/Irish.
They should be referred to as Welsh AND British and it should stay that way regardless of form! As is is now, when they win they're British and Welsh/Scottish/Irish/English, when they lose they're British and Welsh/Scottish/Irish/English.

I just don't think it's as blatant as you make out Russ, unless you can demonstrate otherwise. And if there is such an English bias in the press why is Henman always referred to as British rather than English?

Russ 29-06-2006 20:04
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
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Originally Posted by SlackDad
They should be referred to as Welsh AND British and it should stay that way regardless of form! As is is now, when they win they're British and Welsh/Scottish/Irish/English, when they lose they're British and Welsh/Scottish/Irish/English.

I just don't think it's as blatant as you make out Russ, unless you can demonstrate otherwise. And if there is such an English bias in the press why is Henman always referred to as British rather than English?
I've already answered that!

SlackDad 29-06-2006 20:15
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ D
I've already answered that!
All positive Andrew Murray stories which say that he is Scottish.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/3652020.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/3651346.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4603449.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tenn...04/3650264.stm - mentions both British and that he's a Scot.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4021855.stm - mentions both

A negative story that says he is British from Newsround http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/ne...00/4211062.stm

Many of the stories I glanced at mentioned both that he was British and a Scot.

Russ 29-06-2006 20:19
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
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Originally Posted by SlackDad
All positive Andrew Murray stories which say that he is Scottish.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/3652020.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/3651346.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4603449.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tenn...04/3650264.stm - mentions both British and that he's a Scot.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/4021855.stm - mentions both

A negative story that says he is British from Newsround http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/ne...00/4211062.stm

Many of the stories I glanced at mentioned both that he was British and a Scot.
And if I was so inclined I'm sure I could find double that which describe him as Scottish when he loses and british when he wins.

SlackDad 29-06-2006 20:38
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
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Originally Posted by Russ D
And if I was so inclined I'm sure I could find double that which describe him as Scottish when he loses and british when he wins.
Whatever.

TheBlueRaja 30-06-2006 12:16
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
:nworthy: ANDY MURRAY IS GOD!!!!! :nworthy:

Good call lad - you went right up in my estimations yesterday! Come on Portugal - end this farce!

Russ 30-06-2006 16:08
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
:nworthy: ANDY MURRAY IS GOD!!!!! :nworthy:
No he isn't :p:

TheBlueRaja 30-06-2006 16:10
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
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Originally Posted by Russ D
No he isn't :p:
LOL, :D

punky 30-06-2006 16:39
Re: The anyone but England thread!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
:nworthy: ANDY MURRAY IS GOD!!!!! :nworthy:

Good call lad - you went right up in my estimations yesterday! Come on Portugal - end this farce!
Scottish or British God though? :p:


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