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Mr K 04-08-2025 17:48

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36200431)
Good news our rubbish labour council just lost an election for a new councillor to Reform :D:D

Reform councilors don't have a good track record of staying in the job when they find out they have to do something and are accountable.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/06/1...-in-six-weeks/
Who do you protest/moan about if you're the one in charge? :shrug:

Sirius 04-08-2025 18:52

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36200470)
Reform councilors don't have a good track record of staying in the job when they find out they have to do something and are accountable.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/06/1...-in-six-weeks/
Who do you protest/moan about if you're the one in charge? :shrug:

Anyone is better than who left. He was the finance officer who oversaw the accumulation of £1.8 billion of debt due to crazy get rich schemes. He then decides he will retire from his role and is inline for a fat pension and golden handshake.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceq7z71w8xno

https://www.ft.com/content/e5024825-...f-74af3faaaa64


The biggest problem at Warrington council was that there was not enough non labour councillors to oppose the stupid investments they made that nearly all failed dramatically.

Basically they believed they had the famous labour magic money tree

Paul 04-08-2025 18:57

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Wait ...
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The council is to pay £1,200 a day for the lead envoy and £1,100 for the other envoys.
(There are 3 others).

So £4500 a day, £1.64 Million per year, for 5 years ?
Seems as if they were better off just £1.8 million in the red.

Sirius 04-08-2025 19:18

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36200474)
Wait ...
(There are 3 others).

So £4500 a day, £1.64 Million per year, for 5 years ?
Seems as if they were better off just £1.8 million in the red.

Paul it’s billion not million. Jobs for the boys springs to mind.It is rumoured the debt has increased to £1.9 billion. Somebody did a calculation and it means £15000 per man women and child in Warrington is in debt because let’s face it the council will not be paying it. The debt will be funded from increased council tax.

Mr K 04-08-2025 19:29

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I see the turn out was 18%, and less than 10% of the electorate voted for Reform . If the electorate give up on voting that's the time to worry.

Sirius 04-08-2025 19:33

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36200477)
I see the turn out was 18%, and less than 10% of the electorate voted for Reform . If the electorate give up on voting that's the time to worry.

I don’t care what the turn out is as long as the idiots that created the debt are kicked out. I don’t even care which party they are as long as they are not labour.

OLD BOY 04-08-2025 20:15

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36200431)
Good news our rubbish labour council just lost an election for a new councillor to Reform :D:D

That’s the way it’s going!

---------- Post added at 20:13 ---------- Previous post was at 20:12 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36200477)
I see the turn out was 18%, and less than 10% of the electorate voted for Reform . If the electorate give up on voting that's the time to worry.

So what percentage did the other parties get?…..:rolleyes:

---------- Post added at 20:15 ---------- Previous post was at 20:13 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36200470)
Reform councilors don't have a good track record of staying in the job when they find out they have to do something and are accountable.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2025/06/1...-in-six-weeks/
Who do you protest/moan about if you're the one in charge? :shrug:

Is that the best you’ve got? It’s a new party breaking new ground. It will find itself.

Concentrate on the policies and ask yourself why both Conservative and Labour voters are turning to Reform in their droves. That’s the real debate.

Mr K 04-08-2025 20:18

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36200483)

So what percentage did the other parties get?…..:rolleyes:

Not sure OB, do the maths. But if less than 1 in 5 of the electorate voted, and less than half of those voted for the winner, then democracy has lost.

Paul 04-08-2025 22:49

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36200476)
Paul it’s billion not million. .

Whoops, I totally misread that. :erm:

Even so, 1.6 Million per year seems an insane amount to be paying for a bit of help.

OLD BOY 06-08-2025 13:56

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36200487)
Not sure OB, do the maths.

I did. Reform got more votes that all the other parties put together.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36200487)

But if less than 1 in 5 of the electorate voted, and less than half of those voted for the winner, then democracy has lost.

I agree, that’s not good, but such is the disillusionment with our main political parties, it is not surprising.

Mr K 06-08-2025 17:43

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36200542)
I did. Reform got more votes that all the other parties put together.

Take it, maths isn't your strong point then OB? ;)
Quote:

Bewsey and Whitecross by-election

Liberal Democrat, David Crowther – 223 votes
Labour, Maitane Akpan – 631 votes
Reform UK, John Anthony Roddy – 752 votes (elected)
Conservative, Stephen Howard Taylor – 116 votes
Rejected ballot papers total - 9

Turnout

18%
https://www.warrington.gov.uk/electionresults

Itshim 06-08-2025 17:54

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36200487)
Not sure OB, do the maths. But if less than 1 in 5 of the electorate voted, and less than half of those voted for the winner, then democracy has lost.

Perhaps you need to check out most UK governments, nearly every one most of country didn't vote for them . That never stops them saying it's what the country wants:shocked:

Sirius 06-08-2025 20:29

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36200558)
Take it, maths isn't your strong point then OB? ;)

https://www.warrington.gov.uk/electionresults

You do understand this was a vote for a councillor in a small ward within the Warrington region. This was not a major vote for the whole of Warrington.


Bewsey and Whitecross by-election
Liberal Democrat, David Crowther: 223 votes
Labour, Maitane Akpan: 631 votes
Reform UK, John Anthony Roddy: 752 votes (elected)
Conservative, Stephen Howard Taylor: 116 votes
Rejected ballot papers total: 9

Voting for more candidates than voter was entitled to: 1
Writing or mark by which voter could be identified: 1
Being unmarked or wholly void for uncertainty: 7
Electorate size: 9773

Ballot papers issued: 1731

Turnout: 17.7%

Hugh 06-08-2025 20:40

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I believe Mr K was specifically responding (in his later post) to this point, which was not congruent with actuality

Quote:

Reform got more votes that all the other parties put together.
Reform got 752 votes, all the other parties put together got 970 votes.

papa smurf 06-08-2025 21:09

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
I'm glad we've worked out Reform won, i was on the edge of my seat, it was a real nail biter


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