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1andrew1

11-02-2015 14:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35758655)

P.s I think VM should have backed their strong Internet and launched a "Netflix" or a "Amazon prime" but been pro active in acquiring initial rights instead of sloppy seconds, if they had got into bed with the big American tv companies back when sky was withholding basic channels the landscape could now have been totally different.

They would still have needed a good PVR/on-demand solution though and back in 2010, Tivo was seen as this.

RichardCoulter

11-02-2015 14:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35758660)

That's great for 'bleeding edge' TVs, however there will always be a need for add on boxes (whether from Virgin Media or others) that bring those services to cheaper / older TVs.

When the Sky basic channels weren't on Virgin TV, Virgin owned their own set of channels such as Living, Bravo, Challenge etc which did have a lot of original content from the US.

However these were sold in return for a more secure content agreements for the Sky channels http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...media-channels

And they created two new channels to replace them- Setanta Sports News and Virgin 1

heavyside

11-02-2015 14:55

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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35758653)

They dont to my knowledge? But could be proved wrong?

I thought the USA used a different broadcasting format and a different electrical voltage to the UK's PAL and 240 volt.

1andrew1

11-02-2015 15:12

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35758666)

And they created two new channels to replace them- Setanta Sports News and Virgin 1

Virgin 1 was sold to Sky as well as the other channels like Bravo and Living. It became Channel One under Sky's ownership before closing down.

spiderplant

11-02-2015 15:28

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35758643)

How do USA models of the TiVo work in the UK?

They go bang! (And, no, it wasn't me who tried :))

RichardCoulter

11-02-2015 16:25

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35758474)

Be careful what you say in front of your Smart TV if it's a Samsung ;)

An interesting discussion here about the possibility of your telly gossiping about you

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2051021

Lets hope that TiVo and V+ haven't collaborated together to tell tales :D

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35758672)

Virgin 1 was sold to Sky as well as the other channels like Bravo and Living. It became Channel One under Sky's ownership before closing down.

Yep, I think that it was called Channel One for a short time before closure because Sky didn't want to pay for the licence to use the Virgin branding.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35758674)

They go bang! (And, no, it wasn't me who tried :))

Lol, I wasn't thinking about it's electricity supply, but they are different aren't they. Was thinking more about the technical aspects, i'm assuming that as an unregistered V Box wouldn't work on the VM system, an American TiVo probably wouldn't. Perhaps some people use them for DTT or satellite??

Perfect Choice

11-02-2015 17:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35758647)

So your suggesting you have to record to local storage (HDD) then upload to the cloud , I'd severely doubt that.

Depends what the cloud would be used for - primary or offline/backup storage where local stored recordings are transferred to the cloud where you could have a 3TB allowance say and pay for even more if you wanted.

All guess work of course and the best concept would be to have recordings directly stored in the cloud (so VM actually keep one recording of many 1000's users "recording" of a programme?), it wasn't me who actually mentioned the cloud so not really sure what VM are thinking of in this area, but the only thing I have ever heard of is it being mentioned for backing up your Tivo in case it fails.

Perhaps they could follow the same concept as my iPhone where I have downloaded apps/songs on my phone but can also download additional apps/songs previously bought (or recorded for Tivo?) on my account so not everything is actually on my phone - so you could have 2TB of recordings using a 500Mb Tivo box? Pure guesswork of course! I guess I am talking about a "personal" On -Demand service for your own recordings.

spiderplant

11-02-2015 22:41

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35758678)

Lol, I wasn't thinking about it's electricity supply, but they are different aren't they. Was thinking more about the technical aspects

Off the top of my head
- They don't support DVB (lots of different aspects here)
- They don't support SCART
- They don't support VOD as implemented by VM
- They don't support Nagra smartcards
- They don't support RC5 remote controls

And probably one or two more that I haven't thought of.

muppetman11

12-02-2015 08:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35758682)

This article confirms both Sky and VM are working toward this hence my comment about tuners going forward.

RichardCoulter

12-02-2015 09:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

There appeared to be one less channel in the EPG when I was flicking through this morning.

Have we lost a channel? If so, what was it?

Perfect Choice

12-02-2015 09:32

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35758797)

This article confirms both Sky and VM are working toward this hence my comment about tuners going forward.

Thanks for the link. Notice comment "Virgin Media is also testing a cloud-based recording system along the lines of Project Ethan with its set-top box provider TiVo" so yes looks like something is being investigated.

TAZMANUK

12-02-2015 10:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35758626)

Would the amount of tuners still be an issue with recordings stored in the cloud ?

Theirs already a service that does this called very tangy TV, record up to 9 channels at once I think

https://marcus-lange-8xe4.squarespace.com/shop/

Only thing with cloud is if you're internet connection is down no TV, unless if virgin have its own dedicated modem in the set top box which they probably will.

But what then, be charged for certain storage space, yep.

spiderplant

12-02-2015 12:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35758804)

Have we lost a channel? If so, what was it?

VM Pop has gone

OLD BOY

12-02-2015 12:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35758824)

VM Pop has gone

My grandkids won't be pleased :mad:

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35758660)

When the Sky basic channels weren't on Virgin TV, Virgin owned their own set of channels such as Living, Bravo, Challenge etc which did have a lot of original content from the US.

However these were sold in return for a more secure content agreements for the Sky channels http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...media-channels

Then came Sky Atlantic....:rolleyes:

BenMcr

12-02-2015 12:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35758824)

VM Pop has gone

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35758827)

My grandkids won't be pleased :mad:

It's only the access channel, you can still get the playlist by going to On Demand > Music > Playlists > VM Pop

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