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Mr_love_monkey 09-08-2007 14:15
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34371582)
The online version of the Daily Mail (Not my favourite newspaper has two interesting articles)
Hmm.. this whole thing is just becoming one big(ger) mess - very strange for the lawyer to basically attack them - and the level of dislike by the portugese people seems very strange.

mrmistoffelees 09-08-2007 14:18
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Just found this too.

A quote from Gerry McCann on Sky News:

"I am uncomfortable with my celebrity status"

CELEBRITY ??????

and this one too

From an earlier interview with Gerry McCann…


Reporter " how did you feel when Madeleine had gone"?

Gerry "well like as a student when you go to the cash machine and the overdrdaft is gone"

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34371586)
Hmm.. this whole thing is just becoming one big(ger) mess - very strange for the lawyer to basically attack them - and the level of dislike by the portugese people seems very strange.

Oh it gets even more interesting too.


Detective Goncalo Amaral, one of the senior detectives in the hunt for Madeleine, is an official suspect in allegations against police in the Cipriano case.
Three other officers have been accused of torture, a fourth with omitting evidence and a fifth with falsifying documents.

Saaf_laandon_mo 09-08-2007 14:19
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
The link above regarding the phone calls/emails said it was a joint operation between Portuguese and British police. It will be interesting if we hear any statements for the British police later today.

One thing is unclear though to me, the article doesn't mention when the mails/calls were intercepted. I would think it could be possible that they had called a friend, say last week, and said "Maddie's dead", maybe as they have come to accept that.

The timing of these calls/emails (if this is true) is going to be quite important.

Mr_love_monkey 09-08-2007 14:22
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34371587)
Just found this too.

Reporter " how did you feel when Madeleine had gone"?

Gerry "well like as a student when you go to the cash machine and the overdrdaft is gone"
Yeah - I can understand that - that's just what I'd feel if someone had taken my child.

Not.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34371587)

Oh it gets even more interesting too.


Detective Goncalo Amaral, one of the senior detectives in the hunt for Madeleine, is an official suspect in allegations against police in the Cipriano case.
Three other officers have been accused of torture, a fourth with omitting evidence and a fifth with falsifying documents.
Sorry, probably being dense - what does that mean? - i.e. is the implication that the McCanns are being set up? -

mrmistoffelees 09-08-2007 14:24
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34371590)
The link above regarding the phone calls/emails said it was a joint operation between Portuguese and British police. It will be interesting if we hear any statements for the British police later today.

One thing is unclear though to me, the article doesn't mention when the mails/calls were intercepted. I would think it could be possible that they had called a friend, say last week, and said "Maddie's dead", maybe as they have come to accept that.

The timing of these calls/emails (if this is true) is going to be quite important.

To the best of my knowledge British officers are working behind the scenes and will not comment on front line enquiry matters.

Your second point about acceptance is interesting as I would like to quote the following

Gerry McCann
Quote:
L“We want to make it clear that, as far as we know, there is still absolutely no evidence that Madeleine has been seriously harmed, and Kate and I have to believe she is still alive.

The above was said last night

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34371591)
Yeah - I can understand that - that's just what I'd feel if someone had taken my child.

Not.

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Sorry, probably being dense - what does that mean? - i.e. is the implication that the McCanns are being set up? -
Correct

Mr_love_monkey 09-08-2007 14:29
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34371596)
Correct
Unjustly set up, or just set up

interesting comment here

mrmistoffelees 09-08-2007 14:32
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34371603)
Unjustly set up, or just set up

interesting comment here

It is the Ciprano where the mother was jailed over the murder of her daughter which is what the Portugese detective (along with others) are being investigated for.

Mr_love_monkey 09-08-2007 14:33
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 34371606)
It is the Ciprano where the mother was jailed over the murder of her daughter which is what the Portugese detective (along with others) are being investigated for.
I know - I'm just saying there are some interesting comments in relation to that, on that blog

mrmistoffelees 09-08-2007 14:36
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34371608)
I know - I'm just saying there are some interesting comments in relation to that, on that blog

Ah right i see. Apologies,

I have yet to find (and someone may be able to correct me) anything from the McCann's stating they had nothing to do with her dissapearance ??

Acathla 09-08-2007 14:38
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...096790,00.html

Quote:
you know there is absolutely no way Kate and I are involved in this abduction.
Doesn't say anything about murder...

mrmistoffelees 09-08-2007 14:43
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acathla (Post 34371616)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/arti...096790,00.html



Doesn't say anything about murder...
neither does it say that they are not part of the abduction.(An abduction which is looking less likely to have occured by the day)

They are asking other people to believe.

Gareth 09-08-2007 14:53
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34371590)
The link above regarding the phone calls/emails said it was a joint operation between Portuguese and British police. It will be interesting if we hear any statements for the British police later today.

One thing is unclear though to me, the article doesn't mention when the mails/calls were intercepted. I would think it could be possible that they had called a friend, say last week, and said "Maddie's dead", maybe as they have come to accept that.

The timing of these calls/emails (if this is true) is going to be quite important.
I think the British still haven't confirmed the existance of Echelon (understandably so imo), so I don't think they'll make any comments on whether they've been intercepting calls/emails.

Oops, now I've mentioned "the E word" this thread will be monitored by GCHQ too :(

Acathla 09-08-2007 14:57
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gareth (Post 34371637)
Oops, now I've mentioned "the E word"
Was nice knowing you Gareth. Good luck with your new life at the bottom of the sea.

Chris 09-08-2007 15:27
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34371591)
Yeah - I can understand that - that's just what I'd feel if someone had taken my child.

Not.
I think it might be unwise to try to unpick the words of someone who is struggling to comprehend, and explain, the kind of desperation, panic and emptiness that can only come from a situation like this.

Let's not crucify him for not being an accomplished orator, especially while he's under this sort of pressure. Plenty of people have said far worse, with far less excuse.

mrmistoffelees 09-08-2007 15:31
Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Chris T (Post 34371676)
I think it might be unwise to try to unpick the words of someone who is struggling to comprehend, and explain, the kind of desperation, panic and emptiness that can only come from a situation like this.

Let's not crucify him for not being an accomplished orator, especially while he's under this sort of pressure. Plenty of people have said far worse, with far less excuse.
Odd, he has shown little or no signs of pressure most of the timse he has wheeled himself out in front of the reporters.


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