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The network the meter is hosted on, not the meter itself, took a 6Gbps DDoS.
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Wow, nasty! Thankfully it didn't last too long.
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Interesting, Seph. What is it?
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Been well hammering my connection this weekend with FTP.
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I thought something funny was going on :D, my connections been a bit flakey for gaming the last week or two (fine for everything else mind) :) |
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Only 6Gbps? Sounds a bit tame for a DDoS, I could generate 10Gbps off a single machine...
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I can't explain this. I wasn't at home at the time. There were no power outages. Everything was normal when I arrived home.
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VMNG300 swap to a SHUB2, somewhat better max latency...
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Someone claimed that the max latency of the Ambit 300 was a bit of a side-effect and not actually representative of the modem itself.
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Just swapped out the Superhub 2 for an old WNR2000 router I had lying around, Ive updated the firmware and it's working fine but interesting to see there doesnt appear to be any drop in latency or jitter.
So on the face of it no real benefit apart from the router being pretty configurable compared to the Superhub 2. The second big red spike was me swapping out the cables for cat6 ones I had spare. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...07-05-2014.png |
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Mine has been a mixed bag for the past 5 months, speed is fine for the most part though it has dropped as low as 40Mb on occasion.
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Same old same old over on BT's side, I'm in Crappydeen now so even higher base pings :(
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What's worse, higher base ping or higher jitter?
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Depends on your usage. If you're gaming jitter is probably worse, as it makes interactions inconsistent and jumpy in extreme cases. If you're downloading or browsing high jitter isn't much of an issue, it'll be overall faster if average latency stays lower. Unbuffered VOIP is another jitter sensitive one, particularly as your ears have much higher temporal response than your eyes.
I've never found base latency to differ much between ISPs, as there are many factors that can make latency higher than the minimum but none that can make it go below the minimum, it's just a question of how much above base each ISP stays. |
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I've genuinely had no issues gaming on VM. My wife had some issues with WoW a while ago but I think that was bad traffic shaping or something, it has been resolved for some time.
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WoW isn't really a game that requires a fast connection. Most MMORPGs have a second or more of lag built into the system anyway.
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No, I know that, but a while ago (a good year or so, probably longer) there were major issues with WoW on VM connections, where latency was shooting into figures of several hundred, sometimes > 1000.
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Ah yeah, I think I remember something like that, WoW (and a few other, less well-known things) were misclassified as P2P by VM.
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They were also shaping the Think Broadband non-HTTP speed test. WoW had a patch which changed the protocol and the Allot kit didn't spot it anymore. |
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The EU's new rules on net neutrality will hopefully put an end to this traffic shaping nonsense.
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Woke up this morning with no broadband. Rebooted the SHUB and it eventually came back, but it's not pretty:
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] Annoyingly, power levels and such seem fine, 8 DS locked but 1 US is "Aborted". Not at home to do more thorough testing. I also did a speed test, you wouldn't think anything was wrong: https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/05/17.png |
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It's always worth contacting them. I doubt our problems are related as I'm in Warrington.
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Always worth phoning up (UK) to see if they're doing anything in your area.
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No idea on the neighbours, Seph, I'll have to check when I get home. I can VPN in though, so the connection can't be that bad (And the ping graph has calmed down a bit, it seems)- I just can't reboot the hub (unless someone can point me to a way of doing this remotely?).
Just for completeness, here's the stats: https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/05/14.png https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/05/15.png As you can see, everything except that particular upstream seems to check out. I'm hoping that another reboot will get it back on, but if not then hopefully even on a single upstream I should still have a usable connection. The wife has a raid tonight, so that'll be a good test! |
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I had a similar outage according to the graph, but I can't VPN in from work to check levels, although my levels are **** anyway.
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Hehe. Well Raspberry Pis (or Virgin Media DIR-615's) are actually ideal platforms for build-it-yourself solutions like that. All you'd need is a 12v power supply and a transistor. And a few lines of code. You could still easily use it for watching "cheap films" as well.
I've been tempted to build similar things with a DIR-615 and some relay switches for 240v sockets (commercial products cost £30+ per socket), but that's slightly more dangerous when you get it wrong than a 12v supply to a Superhub. |
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On the bright side, finally home and rebooted - back to normal, it seems! https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/05/16.png I've even got my 2 "other" upstreams showing again. I yearn for the day when they become active so we can maybe get back to 10:1 (or better). |
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Well, it's extremely likely both will arrive at the same time.
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Quite possibly. We've seen people on QAM64 as well. If 2x QAM16 is enough for my area (and I don't seem to suffer congestion), then 4x QAM64 should be good for 10:1 at the very least, I think.
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The old activation portal would force a reboot.
And the SH2 does have a reboot option in the menu, but only in router mode. But it's likely you can still trigger it by navigating to the page while in modem mode if you had the link handy. |
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How to reboot your modem remotely.
Go to - https://my.virginmedia.com/faults/service-status - Scroll down to the pc icon - click on Lost internet connection - and run the test and it will restart your equipment Attachment 25467 |
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My BB is down, fault at 10pm fix by 4pm BAH HUMBUG!
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I'm sure some enterprising young hacker could devise some sort of antichrist of a magic packet that'll crash and reboot the Superdud when sent to it over the tinternets.
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If such a thing were doable, we all really would be SOL.
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Not sure if this is the link you guys re on about, but I find the one below tends to work for me if I can't login to the router etc
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Just get tone of these and you'll be able to remotely reboot anything, web interface or no web interface.
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Anyway, back to the topic.....
Here is mine - quite happy with this. http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...26-05-2014.png https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2014/05/6.png |
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No idea what's going on with the connection since last night.
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Downstream DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4 DS-5 DS-6 DS-7 DS-8 Frequency (Hz) 291000000 Hz 283000000 Hz 299000000 Hz 307000000 Hz 315000000 Hz 323000000 Hz N/A N/A Lock Status(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked N/A N/A Channel ID 68 67 69 70 71 72 N/A N/A Modulation QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 QAM256 N/A N/A Symbol Rate (Msym/sec) 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 N/A N/A Interleave Depth I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 N/A N/A Power Level (dBmV) -0.5 dBmV -0.5 dBmV -0.7 dBmV -0.8 dBmV 1.0 dBmV 1.0 dBmV N/A N/A RxMER (dB) 36.7 dB 36.9 dB 36.7 dB 36.5 dB 36.3 dB 36.2 dB N/A N/A Upstream US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4 Channel Type 2.0 2.0 N/A N/A Channel ID 49 50 N/A N/A Frequency (Hz) 46200000 Hz 39400000 Hz N/A N/A Ranging Status Success Success N/A N/A Modulation QAM16 QAM16 N/A N/A Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 5120000 N/A N/A Mini-Slot Size 128 128 N/A N/A Power Level (dBmV) 45.3 dBmV 45.3 dBmV N/A N/A T1 Timeouts 0 0 N/A N/A T2 Timeouts 0 0 N/A N/A T3 Timeouts 0 0 N/A N/A T4 Timeouts 0 0 N/A N/A |
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Give them a ring, something isn't right there though the power levels look all right.
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So this has been me for the last few days:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/07/35.png I've lost an upstream as well. |
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Seems to have returned to relative normality as of 4pm today
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If I'm completely honest, I didn't even notice there was an issue until I went to check one of the other graphs today.
I've not been on it much but browsing and downloads seemed fine. The wife was raiding on WoW on Wednesday night and didn't notice anything either, which is a bit weird, I'd have expected some lag going her way. You can see where I've rebooted the modem just before 4 and coincidentally it seems to have settled not much after that. |
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Wondered where my speed had gone
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/07/29.png not so much a bump more a brick wall :( |
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Looks like VM have taken their extreme bufferbloat out of their Superhubs and put it in their core network instead...
... That, or that's some extreme circuitous routing (but the packet loss suggests more saturation). |
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Saturation might be cause by too much traffic being redirected through a particular node.
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Yep something has fallen over again, although you wouldn't think that from the telephone 'support'
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What are your modem stats? And how about a few tracerts?
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Frequency (Hz) 434250000 426250000 442250000 450250000 458250000 466250000 N/A N/A Lock Status(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Locked Unlocked Unlocked Channel ID 2 1 3 4 5 6 N/A N/A Modulation 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM Unknown Unknown Symbol Rate (Msym/sec) 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 6.952000 N/A N/A Interleave Depth I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 I=12 J=17 N/A N/A Power Level (dBmV) -1.40 -1.63 -1.19 -0.97 -0.89 -1.16 N/A N/A RxMER (dB) 37.94 37.64 37.94 37.09 38.26 38.26 N/A N/A Pre RS Errors 417 1029 385 358 279 886 N/A N/A Post RS Errors 271 310 285 310 279 886 N/A N/A Upstream US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4 Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A 2.0 Channel ID 17 N/A N/A 20 Frequency (Hz) 46200000 N/A N/A 25800000 Ranging Status Success Other Other Success Modulation 32QAM N/A N/A 16QAM Symbol Rate (Sym/sec) 5120000 N/A N/A 5120000 Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A 4 Power Level (dBmV) 48.25 N/A N/A 45.75 T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0 T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0 T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0 T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0 Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601] Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. C:\Users\Epideme>tracert bbc.co.uk Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms routerlogin.net [192.168.0.1] 2 9 ms 6 ms 9 ms cpc10-staf7-2-0-gw.3-1.cable.virginm.net [86.6.2 04.1] 3 72 ms 72 ms 71 ms brhm-core-2b-ae3-1858.network.virginmedia.net [6 2.255.32.245] 4 77 ms 72 ms 76 ms brhm-bb-1b-ae8-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253 .174.77] 5 79 ms * 71 ms brhm-bb-2a-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254 .42.105] 6 * * * Request timed out. 7 * * * Request timed out. 8 76 ms 76 ms 95 ms 212.58.239.249 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 80 ms 78 ms 78 ms ae0.er01.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.109] 12 80 ms 77 ms 80 ms 132.185.255.149 13 78 ms 77 ms 77 ms fmt-vip71.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20] Trace complete. C:\Users\Epideme>tracert bbc.co.uk Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms routerlogin.net [192.168.0.1] 2 28 ms 44 ms 37 ms cpc10-staf7-2-0-gw.3-1.cable.virginm.net [86.6.2 04.1] 3 102 ms 71 ms * brhm-core-2b-ae3-1858.network.virginmedia.net [6 2.255.32.245] 4 74 ms 75 ms 72 ms brhm-bb-1b-ae8-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253 .174.77] 5 75 ms 73 ms 78 ms brhm-bb-2a-ae2-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254 .42.105] 6 * 80 ms 74 ms brhm-bb-1c-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.254 .42.110] 7 77 ms 83 ms * tcl5-ic-2-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.250 .15.210] 8 78 ms 75 ms 76 ms 212.58.239.249 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 99 ms 90 ms 79 ms ae0.er01.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.109] 12 79 ms 79 ms 80 ms 132.185.255.149 13 * 77 ms 76 ms fmt-vip71.telhc.bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.20] Trace complete. C:\Users\Epideme> |
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Got similar here as well, although more of a step than a brick wall.
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Been on 6 ever since we got the 60mb upgrade last year, have only had 2 US for last couple of months though and that's not consistent, been having loss of connection a fair amount lately 3 or 4 times a week for a few mins to an hour sometimes I get it back with 1 US sometimes with 2.
Telephone support are still insisting there is nothing wrong with the network and want to arrange an engineer for me waste of time. ---------- Post added at 18:25 ---------- Previous post was at 17:06 ---------- http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedt...7695510120.png Any slower and its going to start going backwards! And they still insist there is nothing wrong with the network |
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[img]Download Failed (1)[/img] That's 3 folk displaying a step change around 1.30 pm; Staffs, Shropshire and Coventry. All West Midlands or western Midlands. My speed is unaffected. https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2014/07/30.png |
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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...0-07-2014.htmlSeems a lot of people are having this problem today.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...0-07-2014.html My Broadband Ping |
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Mine has been more tame recently
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...11-07-2014.png as opposed to how it was: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...26-06-2014.png |
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This is mine. Not the prettiest but I have a tech to be arranged as my upstream power levels are too high. Hopefully this may have a positive impact as aside from the ping jitter and spikiness, my connection (100/6) is very fast pretty much all the time. |
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Finally got moved on to 8 downstream channels earlier on today, was previously on 6.
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Had this when arrived home yesterday after a night away. Quickly fixed with a reboot. Any similar experiences recently?
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Thanks gents, must be just me then, overdue for some node work this month that should hopefully iron this out.
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I wish I hadn't upgraded to 152Mb so quickly. Poor performance now..
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That's either a noise fault or a TBB glitch. What do your modem stats say?
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No, it's neither.
It's a core network fault. Saw it on several core nodes yesterday and today. |
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Interesting. I may have to stand corrected unless there are 2 different issues going on.
Never seen such an extreme reaction from DOCSIS on the downstream before, shouldn't happen if the load balancing is working properly. |
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Before commenting on the downstream channels, please - copy & paste the stats rather than putting up images. From our end it makes extra work having to open other files .
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