Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36087492)

Because you're changing people's behaviours and how they can interact, person A catches virus but doesn't go to work (ie a restaurant) because it's shut, they therefore don't have a significant chance of passing the virus onto colleagues B,C & D and onto customers E-Z


It's called chains of transmission.

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36087495)

No, he's not, allowing the virus to run riot from day one would have done significantly more damage to the economy than lockdowns ever have. We also would not have a health system anymore.

the belief that the same amount of people would be infected & that we would experience the same levels of hospitalizations & deaths regardless of iwe locked down or not, is at best dumb ignorance and at worst a deliberate attempt to spread misinformation.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36087497)

No he isn’t. Scientists have not been working on a vaccine for Covid-19 for “decades”. It’s a novel virus first described in 2019. The clue’s in the name. A great many people with relevant expertise stated early on that if a viable candidate could be prepared, changing the usual testing and approval regimes could significantly accelerate its availability. Some of those working on the cutting edge of vaccine design were confident that they could produce candidate vaccines quickly. Oxford university had its candidate ready for human trials on 23 April 2020, having received a complete copy of the virus genome on 11 January. This is because scientists learned how to combat coronaviruses during the earlier SARS and Mers outbreaks.

There was no point, at the outset of the first lockdown, when it was reasonable to assume a decade-long wait for a vaccine, quite regardless of how long any other vaccine in history has taken to design.

If you want to know how the Oxford-AsraZeneca vaccine was made and just how it was able to be formulated so quickly, read here: https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n86

Or here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55041371

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36087501)

I'm not saying that we don't have significant issues within the NHS Mick, I'm saying without locking down last year (Apr) we would in my opinion have caused the NHS to collapse which subsequently would have lead onto even more cases,hospitalizations & deaths than we've already sustained.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36087505)

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36087508)

Are you being mischievous, Seph? ;)

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36087508)

Are you being mischievous, Seph? ;)

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36087511)

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087503)

Absolutely.

Now let's go to the next stage and examine what happens when the lockdown ends.

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Where are you coming from?!!

Yes, the lockdowns were imposed to prevent the NHS from being overwhelmed. But where do you get the idea that when the lockdown ends, it doesn't all start up again? Did you not notice the second wave? Or the third...

I think the scientists are all agreed that lockdowns delay, rather than prevent transmission.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087506)

Chris, when I said we were working on an inoculation for decades, I was referring to coronaviruses, not specifically COVID-19.

And is all very well being wise after the event, but there was no confidence that we'd have an effective vaccine in the foreseeable future. It was a hope, that was all.

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All those Nightingale hospitals seem to have been made available for nothing as we decided to have an enjoyable lockdown instead.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36087506)

Chris, when I said we were working on an inoculation for decades, I was referring to coronaviruses, not specifically COVID-19.

And is all very well being wise after the event, but there was no confidence that we'd have an effective vaccine in the foreseeable future. It was a hope, that was all.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36087448)

I do agree that Australia should have got its vaccination plan together as it can't cut itself off forever.

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36087521)

The daily case numbers, right from the start, suffered dips and rises on a 7-day basis due to the way each area subjected its figures.

Then this last week, this happened. An almost perfect descending graph line.

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36087531)

Testing numbers seem to be holding up according to the dashboard.