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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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---------- Post added at 07:48 ---------- Previous post was at 07:44 ---------- Also, if I don't get a response from the computer crime unit in this mornings post I will start working on a letter to the Metropolitan Police Authority. |
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We must make sure that every article we see in every website/publication gets a response from us. |
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I couldn't find out which force prosecuted Stanford, but I found this QC's CV. The Royal Family got justice. Its well past time 38,000+ ordinary people had the same protection IMHO. Update; This article claims the 'UK National Hi-Tech Crime Unit' prosecuted Stanford... Update #2; NHTCU disbanded in 2006 replaced by e-Crime Unit of SOCA Pete |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Zen 8000 Active account, here I come :D
MAC Code received from BT, ordered Zen account 5 minutes ago (I've had the code a couple of weeks but no money in my account). Even now, when I said the reason for me leaving was 'Phorm', the service bod hadn't heard of them and didn't know what it was about - I think I may have sounded a little cynical at this point in the conversation - (the belly-laugh/snort gave me away I think). Who the hell do they think they're kidding? Still, it's better than being asked what I have to hide :P |
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Nasty :P |
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Has anyone read this in Canada looks like privacy is becoming hot topic around the world.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...g_and_privacy/ |
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On another note, just to update people, its now fast approaching the 8 week mark since I posted my letter to Liberty so if past information is correct about them usually taking 8 weeks to respond I hope to have a reply from them shortly. I have also yet to receive any kind of response from the Chartered Institute of Library and Information Professionals which I am very surprised about given the considerably thorny issue of consent vis-a-vis library internet access. |
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When it goes live it will almost certainly rank as number one reason for everything from slow surfing to area wide outages. It will almost certainly be portrayed, on help forums, as the first reason of choice for everything bad and complaints will prove costly for the ISP's. Just like the transparent caches were hated, multiply the spyware by any large factor you choose. VM saw a mass exodus when it had an argument with Sky over programs and I suspect that Phorm could be far more damaging, over time. There is a very strong possibility that the relativity new UK phenomena of class action suits could come into play over the Phorm issue. A few thousand disgruntled customers banding together to employ the best legal and technical minds available with a challenge to the very thin ice legality of ISP violation of privacy could easily see one or more ISP's into bankruptcy. The ISP's have good reason to be very fearful because the Phorm issue has triggered powerful emotions and they stand a chance of being the target of the public's "we have had enough of the spying culture" revenge. The ISP's are motivated by greed and are potentially going to employ a cavalier attitude toward their customers. They are ultimately responsible if they allow the hardware to be connected and they will face the backlash. The failure of most large companies and governments can be attributed to one decision that went too far (10p tax rates) that seemed like a good idea at the time. Liaison with a spy company may prove to be a catastrophe of director's ego over commonsense and see the eventual deployment of many golden parachutes. |
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I'd like to say thank you to the people who've kept the "BT Webwise Discussion Thread" constantly on visible on page one of the BT Support Forum (you know who you are) http://beta.bt.com/bta/forums/forum....ID=110&start=0 No longer drawing comments from the management, the posts in the thread, discussing topics often raised here, must be excruciating at times for the moderators to read. Well done for keeping up the relentless pressure and, of course supplying a constant update of events relating to Webwise (that BT would rather not be made common knowledge) to BT Support forum users. I often imagine "Mark W" cringing as he reads some of the posts! :clap: :D |
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Would be nice if Mark.W and a few BT bods came over to meet us we have a few questions they might be able to help us with. Perhaps someone could hand out the olive branch asking them to join us in a discussion on ethics, privacy, human rights, freedom of choice, webdesigners rights to not conphorm.. would bring a sparkle to the thread infact now I am a BT customer maybe I should sign up :D |
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And I would even go part way on the issue of P2P - if you share a contended pipe with a few rabid filesharers it is quite welcome if their traffic is shaped, or they get throttled a bit during peak hours just so the rest of us can get a reasonable proportion of our theoretically available bandwidth. That too can be justified on the basis of managing the network to provide the service. But deep packet inspection just to enhance my life with targeted ads? I can't see how that is necessary for the functioning of the ISP service. |
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I don't know if you have kept any logs from bt.broadband.support from last June/July when people were complaining that they were being throttled on port 80. My own tests showed downloads, ftp etc at 6700kps but browsing and anything else on port 80 110kbps. Support seemed to meet a brick wall in obtaining answers and reported that everyone that complained was a heavy downloader. The problem then seemed to fade away. Was that caused by the Phorm trials, I do hope so. It would give BT a face saving let out. |
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