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TheDaddy 28-07-2026 17:51

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36220374)
oh, so it's like advertising then.

Companies pay vast amounts of money to get their products advertised on the TV (and some kind of tax relief) in the very faint chance that the people watching won't fast forward through them.

Probably makes perfect sense to somebody :D

Oh it makes perfect sense, you only have to look at elmo's roi from donnie to know that or Miriam Adelson's for that matter

Carth 28-07-2026 18:57

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36220398)
Oh it makes perfect sense, you only have to look at elmo's roi from donnie to know that or Miriam Adelson's for that matter

No idea what on earth that means . . . actually, not even bothered what it means if it's American garbage

Hom3r 28-07-2026 20:37

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36220322)
You guess wrong.

The latest climate change is over last 150 years, warming is occurring roughly 20 times faster than natural recovery periods from past ice ages. It correlates exactly with the increase in greenhouse gas emissions.


please tell me how you can work out accurately 5 billion years with about 150 years of data?

mrmistoffelees 28-07-2026 20:42

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36220409)
please tell me how you can work out accurately 5 billion years with about 150 years of data?

Ice cores ?

jem 28-07-2026 22:52

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36220410)
Ice cores ?

Among other methods - for ice cores it’s the isotopic composition of gasses trapped in tiny bubbles frozen in the ice. Another method is tree rings - although they only really work back a few thousand years, and ocean sediment cores.

Paul 29-07-2026 00:56

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36220409)
please tell me how you can work out accurately 5 billion years with about 150 years of data?

It seems to work in polls ok .... :D

Carth 29-07-2026 08:51

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36220418)
It seems to work in polls ok .... :D

You little tinker you, I wish I'd thought of that one :D

Damien 29-07-2026 09:11

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by jem (Post 36220413)
Among other methods - for ice cores it’s the isotopic composition of gasses trapped in tiny bubbles frozen in the ice. Another method is tree rings - although they only really work back a few thousand years, and ocean sediment cores.

Also layers of rock sedimentation and radiometric dating. The rock literally is laid as eras pass, and geologists can tell what the atmosphere was like to form it. (We knew something happened at the time the dinosaurs went extinct via this method, long before we found the crater).

jem 29-07-2026 20:17

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36220424)
Also layers of rock sedimentation and radiometric dating. The rock literally is laid as eras pass, and geologists can tell what the atmosphere was like to form it. (We knew something happened at the time the dinosaurs went extinct via this method, long before we found the crater).

The CT boundary, in rocks below that level dinosaur fossils are numerous, above it, none. The boundary itself is marked by a thin deposit layer, over-rich in iridium. So obviously something catastrophic happened on a global scale some 65-66 million years ago, the increased iridium did suggest a metiorite impact, it was many, many years later that the likely candidate for the site was uncovered in. what is now, Mexico.

60-odd million years of erosion have erased most surface features, but there is considerable evidence from the shocked state of the rocks underground.

Now before I am accused of taking the thread off course, I am pointing out that it is certainly possible to deduce what happened or what the conditions were like long before humans kept records or even existed. The Earth has warmed and cooled many times over it’s history - but never so fast as we are seeing now.

So what is causing the mean global temperature to climb so fast? What happened in the world around 150 years ago? Coincidence, oir could there be a connection?

Carth 30-07-2026 02:10

Re: Climate Change
 
Didn't General Custer get his arse kicked about 150 years ago? ;)

Hugh 30-07-2026 08:43

Re: Climate Change
 
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papa smurf 30-07-2026 09:44

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36220454)
Didn't General Custer get his arse kicked about 150 years ago? ;)

Alexander Graham Bell patented the telephone, i bet custer wished he had one

Paul 30-07-2026 14:36

Re: Climate Change
 
Um.... ok, and back to the subject please.

Chris 30-07-2026 23:04

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by jem (Post 36220447)
The CT boundary, in rocks below that level dinosaur fossils are numerous, above it, none. The boundary itself is marked by a thin deposit layer, over-rich in iridium. So obviously something catastrophic happened on a global scale some 65-66 million years ago, the increased iridium did suggest a metiorite impact, it was many, many years later that the likely candidate for the site was uncovered in. what is now, Mexico.

60-odd million years of erosion have erased most surface features, but there is considerable evidence from the shocked state of the rocks underground.

Now before I am accused of taking the thread off course, I am pointing out that it is certainly possible to deduce what happened or what the conditions were like long before humans kept records or even existed. The Earth has warmed and cooled many times over it’s history - but never so fast as we are seeing now.

So what is causing the mean global temperature to climb so fast? What happened in the world around 150 years ago? Coincidence, oir could there be a connection?

Apparently, a Doldrum spacecraft crashed on Earth, causing widespread Iridium contamination, right before a Marian attack vessel destroyed the Doldrum homeworld, generating a massive asteroid which then impacted earth causing the dinosaurs to go extinct.

Or so Star Trek just told me. :D

jem 31-07-2026 19:59

Re: Climate Change
 
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36220504)
Apparently, a Doldrum spacecraft crashed on Earth, causing widespread Iridium contamination, right before a Marian attack vessel destroyed the Doldrum homeworld, generating a massive asteroid which then impacted earth causing the dinosaurs to go extinct.

Or so Star Trek just told me. :D

Yes I watched that documentary, its conclusions are somewhat contested thought. :)

In an earlier post I mentioned what happened on Earth some 150 years ago, Battle of the Little Big Horn and patenting of the telephone were mentioned. Realistically I should have said 200 years ago, my bad. The start of wide spread industrialisation, originating in the UK but then spreading globally.

If you deny that climate change is happening, and is real, then please have an alternative explanation for why the Earth’s mean temperature had risen so much over the past few decades. By definition that is a change in the climate.

OK some may claim that human activities are not responsible, increased solar activity etc have all been cited. Carbon Dioxide is absolutely a ‘greenhouse gas’ (ask Venus what is happening there, it’s a case of a runaway greenhouse effect), I don’t think anyone can deny the physics and chemistry here. So even if you don’t believe that the rise in temperature is entirely due to human activity surely it makes sense to at least not make the situation worse!


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