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Raider999 02-12-2021 16:40
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Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 36103874)
Maybe OT but I can't find a thread for this - quick question.

I watched the Man City match last night on Amazon and it had the 'cinema feel' to the picture although of course, in HD. Flipped over to the Liverpool / Everton match after the coverage had finished and it was a 'normal' HD picture as in what you would expect from say Sky Sports.

I thought it maybe due to my older TV and frame rates but now baffled.
I watched the Man City game as well, watched Chelsea game afterwards - PQ nowhere near as good.

jfman 02-12-2021 20:45
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Watching United v Arsenal and it’s a full 55 seconds behind live according to one major bookmaker.

Mad Max 02-12-2021 21:12
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36104072)
Watching United v Arsenal and it’s a full 55 seconds behind live according to one major bookmaker.
Yup, I watched some of the Man City game last night and it was at least 45 seconds to a minute behind, there was also motion blur when the ball was moving fast, streaming really needs to get their act together because this is hopeless.

Chris 02-12-2021 21:24
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36104077)
Yup, I watched some of the Man City game last night and it was at least 45 seconds to a minute behind, there was also motion blur when the ball was moving fast, streaming really needs to get their act together because this is hopeless.
When the stream is live, by definition there’s no time to add the extra jiggery-pokery that smooths out fast-moving scenes of the kind you get in any live sport. In fact, of all the things you can do with a live tv stream, sport is probably the most difficult. Viewing football smoothly in UHD needs the sort of rock-solid high bandwidth stream you can only reliably get from a broadcast source that isn’t compromised by reliance on the internet, or, I suspect, an extremely expensive TV with the processing power necessary to make up for it.

jfman 02-12-2021 21:36
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36104077)
Yup, I watched some of the Man City game last night and it was at least 45 seconds to a minute behind, there was also motion blur when the ball was moving fast, streaming really needs to get their act together because this is hopeless.
Out of curiosity what device are you using and can you force 50hz?

I’ve used some devices that insist on scaling to 4K60hz on “Auto” and you have to force 50.

Dare I say one of the pitfalls of this diverse streaming future, with a diverse range of apps on a diverse set of devices is it’s harder to troubleshoot these issues. :D

Mad Max 02-12-2021 22:35
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36104082)
Out of curiosity what device are you using and can you force 50hz?

I’ve used some devices that insist on scaling to 4K60hz on “Auto” and you have to force 50.

Dare I say one of the pitfalls of this diverse streaming future, with a diverse range of apps on a diverse set of devices is it’s harder to troubleshoot these issues. :D
Are you referring to what I watched it on?

jfman 02-12-2021 22:38
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36104093)
Are you referring to what I watched it on?
Yes are you using a V6/Fire Stick/integrated app on the TV/Chromecast/laptop/games console etc.

Sorry could have been clearer.

Mad Max 02-12-2021 22:43
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Yes are you using a V6/Fire Stick/integrated app on the TV/Chromecast/laptop/games console etc.

Sorry could have been clearer.
No worries, yeah I watched it on the Amazon Prime app via the V6 box.

jfman 02-12-2021 22:56
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No worries, yeah I watched it on the Amazon Prime app via the V6 box.
Cool, that’ll be 50hz anyway so it won’t be a 60hz output causing the problem. Games consoles are usually a culprit for 60hz output.

Mad Max 02-12-2021 23:03
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36104099)
Cool, that’ll be 50hz anyway so it won’t be a 60hz output causing the problem. Games consoles are usually a culprit for 60hz output.

The game was ok PQ-wise, apart from the blur at times, but the delay isn't good.

Legendkiller2k 03-12-2021 01:22
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36104100)
The game was ok PQ-wise, apart from the blur at times, but the delay isn't good.
Amazon are still playing catch up, i watch on either peacock or nbcsports and no blurring at all, i use the firetv cube which tbf is a pretty powerful device.

jfman 03-12-2021 11:27
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https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...-25-5tbps.html

“Good” news that so many people enjoyed Amazon’s football coverage but bad news from BT with the reminder that someone has to pay for the fact streaming is a ruthlessly inefficient way to broadcast live events to millions of homes.

Raider999 03-12-2021 14:41
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36104133)
https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...-25-5tbps.html

“Good” news that so many people enjoyed Amazon’s football coverage but bad news from BT with the reminder that someone has to pay for the fact streaming is a ruthlessly inefficient way to broadcast live events to millions of homes.

I am sure OB can tell us what the resolution to that problem is.

jfman 03-12-2021 17:18
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36104177)
I am sure OB can tell us what the resolution to that problem is.
Didn’t you catch it in the future of television thread? It’s satellites :D

Raider999 03-12-2021 17:25
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Didn’t you catch it in the future of television thread? It’s satellites :D

:D:D:D


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