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Hugh 28-09-2019 17:15

Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion
 
Reminder - this thread is for new developments about/around Brexit, not to re-hash old argument.

OLD BOY 28-09-2019 18:57

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I see that the opposition parties are going to attempt to sneek in a vote of no confidence on Wednesday, while the Conservative Party Conference is in full swing. Boris should have prorogued Parliament for a second time after all.

What a nasty, undemocratic bunch we have as an opposition in the Commons at the moment. I suspect they will be severely punished at the polls - the electorate will not take kindly to dirty tricks like this. I think this will vindicate Boris in the Court of Public Opinion! They are playing right into his hands.

Hugh 28-09-2019 19:02

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Link, please?

I can find lots of info on a potential VONC, but nothing about next Wednesday.

pip08456 28-09-2019 19:05

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36012068)
Link, please?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland...itics-49863544

Hugh 28-09-2019 19:06

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36012069)

Nothing in that about Wednesday.

Interesting that OB states
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the electorate will not take kindly to dirty tricks
when BJ has stated he will a) obey the law, and b) be out by 31st October, which is not obeying the law.

Taf 28-09-2019 19:38

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Don't panic!

OLD BOY 28-09-2019 19:44

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36012070)
Nothing in that about Wednesday.

Interesting that OB states when BJ has stated he will a) obey the law, and b) be out by 31st October, which is not obeying the law.

The opposition parties are showing that they are not averse to playing fast and loose themselves. They cannot take the moral high ground if they deliberately try to overturn the government while the Conservatives are having their conference.

It certainly adds to their undemocratic credentials.

Taf 28-09-2019 20:05

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Both the Libs and Lab got their Annual Party Conferences, and tried to deny the Cons theirs. Its going ahead though...

jfman 28-09-2019 20:06

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If Parliament is in session it’s in session. That’s democracy. The Tories can all come back from Manchester to vote if need be, it’s hardly the other side of the world.

mrmistoffelees 28-09-2019 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36012067)
I see that the opposition parties are going to attempt to sneek in a vote of no confidence on Wednesday, while the Conservative Party Conference is in full swing. Boris should have prorogued Parliament for a second time after all.

What a nasty, undemocratic bunch we have as an opposition in the Commons at the moment. I suspect they will be severely punished at the polls - the electorate will not take kindly to dirty tricks like this. I think this will vindicate Boris in the Court of Public Opinion! They are playing right into his hands.


Do you mean the vote of no confidence that he himself invited ?


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9120531.html

Or are they nasty and undemocratic because the opposition may choose to do it when they think the time is right, rather than when Boris want's them to do so ?

Sephiroth 28-09-2019 21:07

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012079)
If Parliament is in session it’s in session. That’s democracy. The Tories can all come back from Manchester to vote if need be, it’s hardly the other side of the world.

That's political shenanigans. Parliament getting its revenge on Boris and his miscalculations.

jfman 28-09-2019 21:13

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He wants a VONC and a General Election. I don’t see the drama.

TheDaddy 28-09-2019 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36012068)
Link, please?

I can find lots of info on a potential VONC, but nothing about next Wednesday.

Is that what Stewart Hosie was banging on about earlier? If it is je believed it'd be tabled next week but I don't think all the opposition can even agree on that

OLD BOY 28-09-2019 21:50

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36012079)
If Parliament is in session it’s in session. That’s democracy. The Tories can all come back from Manchester to vote if need be, it’s hardly the other side of the world.

What a ridiculous statement! Parliament is normally in recess for the party conferences. To try to put on an important debate and vote on a day that clashes with the CPC is undemocratic and certainly indicates why Boris wanted to prorogue Parliament. He should do it again, given these snide moves.

The opposition are scared witless of the Conservative Party Conference as the public will then see clearly that the Conservative Party are the only party that is fit to take office. With a good majority, we will all be able to put this nonsense behind us. Hung parliaments are not good for the country as you cannot get decisions through with a determined opposition.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36012080)
Do you mean the vote of no confidence that he himself invited ?


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9120531.html

Or are they nasty and undemocratic because the opposition may choose to do it when they think the time is right, rather than when Boris want's them to do so ?

What, the time is right when the Conservatives are absent? Why could they not wait until Thursday? It is very clear the game they are playing. The public will not be impressed.

Sephiroth 28-09-2019 21:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36012088)
What a ridiculous statement! Parliament is normally in recess for the party conferences. To try to put on an important debate and vote on a day that clashes with the CPC is undemocratic and certainly indicates why Boris wanted to prorogue Parliament. He should do it again, given these snide moves.

<SNIP>

I'm sure others will chime in on your remark. Had there been a normal conference recess period, nothing would have happened to disrupt the CPC. Boris' miscalculated prorogation is the cause of this part of the mess that is Parliament.

And I'm still a Conservative Party member.


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