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spiderplant 10-02-2015 19:49
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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35758469)
in a few years time TiVo will be a dinasour and VM will have backed the wrong horse again.
Even if TiVo ended today, it would still have been a huge success for VM. And there's a few years in the old dog yet.

So which horse you think VM should have backed, and why?

denphone 10-02-2015 19:51
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Tell me SP will be Virgin be coming out with a newer more enhanced model of the TiVo?.

TAZMANUK 11-02-2015 09:56
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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35758469)
To someone mentally unstable, seriously TiVo died in this country once, and it will probably do so again, my Smart TV can already analyse what I watch via set top boxes and make suggestions for me based on that info and it doesn't cost extra a month, in a few years time TiVo will be a dinasour and VM will have backed the wrong horse again.

What utter rubbish, does it record three channels??

Anypermitedroute 11-02-2015 10:03
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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35758521)
Even if TiVo ended today, it would still have been a huge success for VM. And there's a few years in the old dog yet.

So which horse you think VM should have backed, and why?
crikey I have only just upgraded, is the old dog on its last few years of life left?

theone2k10 11-02-2015 11:57
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Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35758597)
crikey I have only just upgraded, is the old dog on its last few years of life left?
Tivo isn't going anywhere anytime soon, you will see it evolving over the next couple of years, more info when i get it.

OLD BOY 11-02-2015 12:25
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35758614)
Tivo isn't going anywhere anytime soon, you will see it evolving over the next couple of years, more info when i get it.
It'll be good when it connects to the cloud so you don't lose your recordings when it dies a death!

I still like my TIVO, but the speed and connectivity issues with the i-Player need to be resolved.

muppetman11 11-02-2015 12:40
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Originally Posted by TAZMANUK (Post 35758595)
What utter rubbish, does it record three channels??
Would the amount of tuners still be an issue with recordings stored in the cloud ?

1andrew1 11-02-2015 12:58
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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35758469)
To someone mentally unstable, seriously TiVo died in this country once, and it will probably do so again, my Smart TV can already analyse what I watch via set top boxes and make suggestions for me based on that info and it doesn't cost extra a month, in a few years time TiVo will be a dinasour and VM will have backed the wrong horse again.
Are you're saying that Tivo was ahead of its time and its competitors have caught up in several ways and that the monthly fee is starting to look like an anachronism? If so, you would probably have a lot of people agreeing with you.
If you're saying that technology leaders come and go then again we'd probably agree with you and I'm sure Tivo will have its day the same as the Sony Walkman and the iPod have had theirs.
If you're saying that Tivo won't evolve and will look a dinosaur, well the evidence of its new products shows this is not the case.
If you're saying that VM has a habit of backing bad horses and Tivo is one of those horses, what horse would you have backed instead?

OLD BOY 11-02-2015 13:21
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35758629)
Are you're saying that Tivo was ahead of its time and its competitors have caught up in several ways and that the monthly fee is starting to look like an anachronism? If so, you would probably have a lot of people agreeing with you.
If you're saying that technology leaders come and go then again we'd probably agree with you and I'm sure Tivo will have its day the same as the Sony Walkman and the iPod have had theirs.
If you're saying that Tivo won't evolve and will look a dinosaur, well the evidence of its new products shows this is not the case.
If you're saying that VM has a habit of backing bad horses and Tivo is one of those horses, what horse would you have backed instead?
There are only donkeys :D

Perfect Choice 11-02-2015 13:38
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35758626)
Would the amount of tuners still be an issue with recordings stored in the cloud ?
But you have to record first then store in the cloud if this becomes available in the future. So the number of tuners is significant if you want to store up programmes for watching another time. I find catch-up and OD inadequate as alternatives as catch-up often does now have a whole series (like 6 months after it was shown) and you have to wait ages to see a whole series through OD. I want to control what I watch and when.

Having 3 or even 4 (USA models) is key for our family and the constant clashes we have with recordings we want all on at the same time. We also tend to watch series (not episodes) so like to build up our own "DIY" box set and the Tivo is perfect for that right now. Having 1 channel to watch and 1 chanel to record is simply not enough.

The answer to this could be to record directly to "the cloud", now that would be interesting!

RichardCoulter 11-02-2015 13:42
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How do USA models of the TiVo work in the UK?

muppetman11 11-02-2015 13:55
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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice (Post 35758639)
But you have to record first then store in the cloud if this becomes available in the future. So the number of tuners is significant if you want to store up programmes for watching another time. I find catch-up and OD inadequate as alternatives as catch-up often does now have a whole series (like 6 months after it was shown) and you have to wait ages to see a whole series through OD. I want to control what I watch and when.

Having 3 or even 4 (USA models) is key for our family and the constant clashes we have with recordings we want all on at the same time. We also tend to watch series (not episodes) so like to build up our own "DIY" box set and the Tivo is perfect for that right now. Having 1 channel to watch and 1 chanel to record is simply not enough.

The answer to this could be to record directly to "the cloud", now that would be interesting!
So your suggesting you have to record to local storage (HDD) then upload to the cloud , I'd severely doubt that.

devilincarnate 11-02-2015 14:11
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35758643)
How do USA models of the TiVo work in the UK?
They dont to my knowledge? But could be proved wrong?

DaMac 11-02-2015 14:17
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1
 
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Originally Posted by TAZMANUK (Post 35758595)
What utter rubbish, does it record three channels??
No it will only record 1 whilst watching 1 at the moment even though it has 3 tuners, but it can instruct my set top box to record as well, and given that samsung are about to launch a new smarter faster operating system this year it will only be a matter of time before everything you need is possible, I didn't say that smart TVs would replace set top boxes, just most of the best features for free.

P.s I think VM should have backed their strong Internet and launched a "Netflix" or a "Amazon prime" but been pro active in acquiring initial rights instead of sloppy seconds, if they had got into bed with the big American tv companies back when sky was withholding basic channels the landscape could now have been totally different.

BenMcr 11-02-2015 14:30
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I didn't say that smart TVs would replace set top boxes, just most of the best features for free.
That's great for 'bleeding edge' TVs, however there will always be a need for add on boxes (whether from Virgin Media or others) that bring those services to cheaper / older TVs.

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35758655)
if they had got into bed with the big American tv companies back when sky was withholding basic channels the landscape could now have been totally different.
When the Sky basic channels weren't on Virgin TV, Virgin owned their own set of channels such as Living, Bravo, Challenge etc which did have a lot of original content from the US.

However these were sold in return for a more secure content agreements for the Sky channels http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...media-channels


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