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General Maximus 17-04-2022 22:53

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36119328)
I hope they dont ruin that memory as well.

I am sure they will. Everybody (apart from me) has done nothing but moan about Dr Who for the last couple of years so i can't imagine it will be any different going forward.

Stephen 17-04-2022 22:56

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Not just Ace but Tegan is back also. Amazing.

Maggy 18-04-2022 08:42

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I gave up round about Ecclestone/David Tennant.It went downhill after that.Not watched it since.

Chris 18-04-2022 10:15

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Chibnall can’t write for families. That much is now abundantly clear. The story ideas in last night’s episode were great but there was far too much going on for the running time. It’s as if he plotted out an entire season of Broadchurch proportions then had to condense it into 50 minutes. Then, he assumes he has to tell the kids what’s going on rather than showing them and letting them think and engage with the story, so the script is saddled with huge amounts of repetitive, expository dialogue. The Doctor basically becomes the narrator.

I think Jodie has done a superb job. She is undoubtedly the Doctor, which was no small feat for the first female actor to play the role after more than 50 years. But, through no fault of her own, her era isn’t going to shine among the greats.

Pierre 18-04-2022 22:59

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36119328)
The New Year special was ok ... ish.

Just watched them spoil my memories of the Seas Devils tonight, in another poor story.

The best part was the trailer for her long overdue departure in the Autumn.
Its going to have Ace :) I loved her as a companion, I hope they dont ruin that memory as well.

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36119347)
I gave up round about Ecclestone/David Tennant.It went downhill after that.Not watched it since.

I binned it at Peter Calpadi, He could, and should have, been a great Dr. But the scripts and stories were dire.

Then Jodie Whittaker, Well we had to take a big run up to jump that shark. Call me whatever you want, but she is not the Doctor…….in my opinion.

Paul 19-04-2022 00:13

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Jodie Whittaker was a PC/Woke choice, a large number of her early stories have been PC/Woke based - that did die off somewhat until the recent specials when they [of course] had to go for the whole lesbian theme with Yaz.

The stories themselve just got more ludicrous - the whole Flux thing, which was almost incomprehensible, and the Timeless Child nonsense. Chibnall has managed to destroy in 4 years what was built up over the previous 12. When I look back at so many of the amazing episodes (esp with Tennant and Smith) its sad how low its fallen.

BenMcr 19-04-2022 15:37

Re: Doctor Who
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36119420)
Jodie Whittaker was a PC/Woke choice, a large number of her early stories have been PC/Woke based - that did die off somewhat until the recent specials when they [of course] had to go for the whole lesbian theme with Yaz.

The series since the revival has been 'woke' in that it was fairly good at being agnostic around sex and gender (and species) along with dealing with many other issues in a way that worked. When the main character is a 900 old Time Lord (potentially) flirting with a sentient tree, then issues around sex, gender or race aren't that difficult if you know what you're doing as a showrunner.

Where the Chibnall series has fallen down is removing all subtlety about the issues they're trying to deal with - but that is true for all the stories. It's been so much 'tell not show' that it doesn't let people make their own mind up about the issues.

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The stories themselve just got more ludicrous - the whole Flux thing, which was almost incomprehensible, and the Timeless Child nonsense. Chibnall has managed to destroy in 4 years what was built up over the previous 12. When I look back at so many of the amazing episodes (esp with Tennant and Smith) its sad how low its fallen.
Unfortunately I think that is true no matter what gender The Doctor was or who was playing them.

Carth 19-04-2022 17:02

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Had no interest in it since Tennant left.

From what I've read over the years I haven't missed anything entertaining

Damien 19-04-2022 18:39

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I think shows just run of steam eventually. There is only so much you can do and before long the writers' are writing with less passion and creativity and instead are just monotonous slogging through scripts. It's obvious when a show has writers who are excited by what they're doing and when they're just doing a job.

Mr K 19-04-2022 21:25

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36119498)
I think shows just run of steam eventually. There is only so much you can do and before long the writers' are writing with less passion and creativity and instead are just monotonous slogging through scripts. It's obvious when a show has writers who are excited by what they're doing and when they're just doing a job.

Isn't that why DW has survived though? You can change the lead characters, writers, stories from week to week, or total direction if the programme. No other series has such flexibility.

General Maximus 19-04-2022 21:30

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36119498)
It's obvious when a show has writers who are excited by what they're doing and when they're just doing a job.

Stargate is the perfect example for that. Literally every person you speak to who was involved in the production at any level will tell you what an amazing job it was to have and how much they loved it and the writers are no exception. It is a joy listening to them go through their stories, creative process and memories of their experience.

General Maximus 20-04-2022 15:00

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1701-e 08-05-2022 13:14

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61371123. New doctor who actor announced.. a solid refresh.

Chris 08-05-2022 13:18

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My kids are delighted, they love him in Sex Education

Jaymoss 08-05-2022 13:31

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I guess a black Doctor was inevitable


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