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dave.m 19-07-2011 10:47

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
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Originally Posted by kenoliver (Post 35274789)
But instead of a small neat VM modem that only use 2 watts to run, I have finished up with a replacement Hub that uses 12.7 to do the same job

I would like to hope that modem only mode would reduce the power usage but unless they can switch off hardware i.e. the unused router, I don't see it happening. So we'll have an "always on" device that slowly eats more watts than necessary.

What does 12.7w on 24/7 for a year add up to ?

kwikbreaks 19-07-2011 11:24

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
A good rule of thumb is that 1w on 24x7 costs ~ £1 per year

kenoliver 19-07-2011 16:16

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
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Originally Posted by dave.m (Post 35275398)
I would like to hope that modem only mode would reduce the power usage but unless they can switch off hardware i.e. the unused router, I don't see it happening. So we'll have an "always on" device that slowly eats more watts than necessary.

What does 12.7w on 24/7 for a year add up to ?

Well my old VM modem used 2.7 watts so I am using an extra 10 watts per hour to do the same job,

I work it out in my case as an extra £1.05 per month

an extra 10 watts per hour = 100 hours to use a unit at 14.5p

720 hours in a 30 day month divided by 100 = 7.2 units x 14.5 = 104.4p

so an extra £12.53 per year,

KenK 19-07-2011 20:22

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
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Originally Posted by kenoliver (Post 35275541)
so an extra £12.53 per year,

Of course, you could switch it off when you're not using it. No, I don't either :D

But in these energy-conscious days, a 5-times (ish) increase in consumption to do the same job does seem a bit strange.

kenoliver 19-07-2011 20:38

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
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Originally Posted by KenK (Post 35275714)
Of course, you could switch it off when you're not using it. No, I don't either :D

.

I know but would it start again? no way would I take that risk ;)

Think those flashing lights are the culprit as far as the extra power consumption goes,

Still they will look nice come christmas time, wont need the tree lights on so that should save me a bit :erm:

kwikbreaks 19-07-2011 21:16

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
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Originally Posted by kenoliver (Post 35275541)
a unit at 14.5p

You need to seriously consider swapping your electricity supplier.

bigsinky 19-07-2011 22:21

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35275738)
You need to seriously consider swapping your electricity supplier.

it would be nice if some of us had a choice :(

kenoliver 20-07-2011 06:04

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35275738)
You need to seriously consider swapping your electricity supplier.

I Know (don't want to stray off topic) BUT :erm:

Just done the deal fixed till July 2013, its supposed to be 8% on top of current tariffs, My hope is that I get it back during the 2 years

Just come off a another fixed deal so had a 20% increase just for that and another 8% on top :shocked:

So my point regarding this, is that power consumption of the HUB is high as a modem replacement only

I had hopped I could reduce my power consumption by taking out my Time Capsule and old modem and just use the HUB instead

Maybe after the R28 firmware upgrade the next one could dim the HUBS lights, as this is were I believe the power go's

Don't get me going again on energy prices, :mad:

dave.m 20-07-2011 07:56

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
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Originally Posted by kenoliver (Post 35275798)
Maybe after the R28 firmware upgrade the next one could dim the HUBS lights, as this is were I believe the power go's

The lights are most likely plain led's which take a miniscule amount of power. The real drain will come from the router/main cpu chip and wireless radio. Even if there were seperate chips for the router and modem, the user interface would most likely be controlled from the main cpu so switching that off would not likely be an option.

I'm sure we'll find out soon enough once R28 is released.

kwikbreaks 20-07-2011 08:30

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
I've not seen anybody post up the consumption in bridge mode but there is known to be a discrete WiFi board which could be powered down and although the main processor can't be turned off the switch circuitry presumably could be or at least run at reduced power (some switches have a "green" mode). I imagine the power required by the CPU should also drop with the reduced load.

I guess it all depends on how skilled the firmware coders are and how bothered they are about your leccy bill...

So - probably unchanged then :(

Compared to having to fork out for a router to do the job the supplied hub should be doing the extra power cost is pretty small beer.

kenoliver 20-07-2011 08:55

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35275840)

Compared to having to fork out for a router to do the job the supplied hub should be doing the extra power cost is pretty small beer.

I agree with you entirely, and had hopped I could just use the HUB and take out my own router

This would have reduced power consumption for me, (and helped the planet for everyone else) :erm:

But sadly it's not worked out like that :cool:

kwikbreaks 20-07-2011 08:58

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> and helped the planet for everyone else

venturing there would certainly be way too far [img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

kenoliver 20-07-2011 09:04

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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35275855)
> and helped the planet for everyone else

venturing there would certainly be way too far http://www.kwikbreaks.webspace.virgi...s/offtopic.gif

Only trying to be humorous didn't mean to offend

kwikbreaks 20-07-2011 09:21

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You didn't offend.....

cook1984 20-07-2011 17:30

Re: Superhub Firmware Beta Test
 
Come on VM, some of us are waiting. I want to upgrade to 30 meg because the current 10 meg is pathetic. The STM limits are so low I can't even watch a single 1 hour HD TV show at peek times without being clobbered. I just need the Superhub to support bridge mode so I can use my own router.

Either that for just give me a proper modem...


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