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---------- Post added at 13:54 ---------- Previous post was at 13:50 ---------- Barwick on the Rugby League deal: "After hearing a comprehensive presentation on all aspects of the new deal, the clubs themselves voted to vote on the proposal. "Most of the clubs recognised that the best result for the immediate future of the game was in front of them, as indeed the significant majority that voted in favour of the offer from Sky Sports underlined. The other clubs were able to vote against it as they saw fit, which is appropriate. "What I feel isn't appropriate, though, is the tone and content of the criticism by some of the Super League clubs who have their own reservations about the deal. "This broadcast contract is the biggest in rugby league history and actually offers Super League clubs an uplift of 63 per cent in annual distributions. "It is also the latest in a number of upbeat initiatives we have enjoyed in recent months: with such a strong wind in our sails, I will not stand by and allow the sport to be blown off-course." |
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I remember when scottish football had an offer from sky, which they rejected for setanta. They then rued that, when setanta folded, and were begging sky to take them.
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I must admit I'm a secret Michael Owen fan. I think he was a genuine World class player who's played at three of the world's most famous clubs and at international level, is almost uniquely placed to offer insight and actually isn't frightened to say what he thinks. But he does sound boring. A lot of people I know don't watch BT Sport because of him. I think he's potentially a bar to future growth and, since they've shown that they're prepared to make tough decisions with the reaction to the failed Halsey experiment, I've come round to the argument that they need to get rid of Owen (Michael and Hargreaves) now.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rug...lub-rugby.html
'BSkyB and BT, the UK’s two warring media giants, were on Thursday night in advanced negotiations over an extraordinary deal to share the television rights for European club rugby and remove the biggest hurdle to a successor for the Heineken Cup.' I speculated a few weeks back that BT and Sky would have to get together eventually because the cost of battling it out for football rights would ultimately become prohibitive. To my mind, this is the first sign that these two bitter rivals are coming to terms with the need to bite the bullet. A small start, but I think this will pave the way for the future. |
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I've not heard anything new other than the rumour that VM may be looking at a deal with HBO for an on demand service. Whether that means that VM has found another (cheaper) way of giving us the HBO shows and is once again playing hardball with Sky, I don't know. I did speculate that Sky Atlantic would be with us by now, and it seemed to be a reasonable suggestion at the time with the reports that I had read. However, the best laid plans can go awry and things are moving at such a pace that of course alternative solutions can become available over time. Personally, I don't care whether I get Sky Atlantic or HBO On Demand, as long as the latter is subscription based and not PPV. One way or another, I am personally convinced that a solution will be available to us soon. But don't tell Justabloke as he will turn this point of view, which is what it is, into a firm prediction...;). Getting back on topic, I do think that Sky's predominance over our broadcasting industry is now set to wane, and they will be forced into compromises which will ultimately lower prices. The fact that they are even contemplating a deal with BT is quite a transformation in their attitude in a surprisingly short time. |
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BTW, I noticed a pop up on TV Anywhere earlier stating BT Sports is free for a day tomorrow (15/2). Forgot to take a picture, sorry. |
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Yes, this is just a one-off deal. The point I'm making is that it shows that two bitter rivals can come to an arrangement when it suits them.
As for Premiership sports, I just think there is a financial ceiling beyond which prices cannot go without driving viewers away. That means something has to give. Eventually. |
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Who says Sky are the ones making all the compromises , last time I looked the BT Youview service didn't contain one Sky entertainment channel which according to BARB are some of the best viewed Entertainment pay TV channels nor did it carry any Sky Sports programming. A wholesale deal and a better working relationship is mutually beneficial to both and will happen at some point in my opinion. |
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I just wish that BT got rid of that horrible scoreline which is at the bottom of the screen.
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BSkyB wins UK rights to IPL Twenty20 live cricket coverage
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[QUOTE=muppetman11;35672258]Why don't you try emailing HBO and asking how you can watch HBO subscription On Demand content in the UK , they'll tell you via Now TV or Sky TV. This is just another pipe dream granted you didn't start it. Sky has paid £275 million for HBO content as opposed to £150 million in 2010 do you really believe they'd pay all that if other broadcasters could also offer the subscription On Demand service ?[QUOTE]
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I guess Sky have got to look at new content since losing the Champions League amongst other things. If the IPL were bothered about viewers they would not have gone to Sky as it's not like they are going to increase the number of viewers where as ITV4 seemed to do ok out of it. I have Sky but will probably look at it even less now it's not in the low channels numbers where I tend to surf. |
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Anybody heard anything about Premier Sports subscriptions on Virgin? The end of February is getting closer and I haven't heard or seen any details of how much it's going to cost or how I subscribe.
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Potentially Interesting news on wholesale pricing of Sky Sports Channels
http://www.lse.co.uk/AllNews.asp?cod...ssue_ReEmerges http://www.stockmarketwire.com/artic...TV-appeal.html |
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Do I contact Virgin or Premier Sport to sign up? |
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Just called Virgin - they knew nothing about it! Suggested I called back after the 1 March.
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There's also another ruling to come on the Sky Sports front which should be known soon - whether BT can offer Sky Sports on YouView. I would it expect this to be allowed. If it goes ahead, it should help make the pay-TV sports market more competitive and will be one thing which acts as a deterrent to future price rises on all platforms.
(Currently, BT is only allowed to sell Sky Sports on BT Vision) |
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England tours to Sri Lanka to be shown live on Sky Sports.
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BT Sport must stop persisting with disastrous and unpopular on-field presenting.
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[QUOTE=denphone;35673878]BT Sport must stop persisting with disastrous and unpopular on-field presenting.
They most certainly do. Before a recent BT Sports match, James Beattie was demonstrating a move down the pitch with the presenter shouting after him "mind your hamstring". Comical. |
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If I may offer another perspective. My own club having just recently been promoted to the Premier League had to spend a fair amount of money installing various things for the benefit of the broadcasters. One of these things was a studio for live match day broadcasting. Now, it's a tight little ground and, unfortunately, the only place this could be sited was the disabled fans concourse. Our disabled fans were moved, but where they are now is less good and they are quite fairly unhappy about the situation.
Palace have been live on tv a fair few times this season, and are on again this coming Saturday. The studio hasn't been used once. If the Premier League are going to insist that clubs, at their own expense and to the detriment of sections of their fans, have to install facilities for broadcasters, why on earth are the broadcasters being allowed to ignore them in favour of gimmicks like BT's pitch side presentation or Sky's live studio audience show? |
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Other solution, allow clubs to negotiate their own club's tv deal. Would suit some, rest can whistle. There you go, two suggestions :) |
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Why are they ignoring it was my question, not why are the clubs being made to do it. |
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Right, obviously I'm betting too subtle. The broadcasters can do what they like because they are more important than the clubs or the supporters. This is because, as you rightly say, they've paid the dosh. That's my reply to Denphone and the point I was trying to illustrate with my example and the rhetorical questions it contained.
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My view, is if you don't want the money, don't go for it. Similar to the whinging about owners, there is an easy solution, don't allow them to take over clubs. But equally, be prepared to struggle when funds get tight, or have clubs close. My view, let the clubs close. There is too much spending without any thought in football. I like the idea of only being able to spend what you can show is in the bank, and it is ring-fenced. The victims of the over spending isn't the football clubs that close, but the businesses that expect payment, but can't because a club over spent and caused an issue. |
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BT to show ex-ref Halsey the red card after alleged bow to Premier League pressure
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...#ixzz2txm2bebQ While they are in the process of getting rid of people then lets hope MO is next. |
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In which case, of course, local suppliers would get nothing as opposed to at least a percentage of what they're owed. Although I agree, it is the local small businesses that suffer in such circumstances. Prevention is far better than cure so perhaps the new financial fair play rules will make a difference. |
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Anyone getting the wwe network??? i know its usa only but for the 90s and early 00s wrestling fan it seems utterly delightful. Anyone got any detailed instructions to being able to sign up to it in the uk??
feel free to pm me these instructions and receive the following: 1) a handshake 2) a signed vince rooney poster 3) a hug |
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Heineken Cup row dependent on BT Sport's possible compromise with Sky.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...sky-rights-row |
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I might have missed this since I really can't be bothered to re-read the whole thread but is ESPN dropping out of XL tv at end of July a new change?
"TV Channels: Channel line ups are subject to change and from the end of July ESPN channels will no longer be included in TV XL. " from the small print at the bottom. or is this last years announcement but they forgot to remove it? |
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Think that's from last year. It also refers to ITV1hd which no longer exists.
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"TV Channels: Channel line ups are subject to change. Channels may be subject to change, including regional variations. TV packs currently exclude some teletext services. ITV HD is subject to regional variation. ITV HD is not available where STV HD or UTV HD is available. " |
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BT YouView adds HD versions of TLC, Discovery, Animal Planet and British Eurosport
http://recombu.com/digital/news/bt-y...rt_M12873.html BT Sport extends Bundesliga rights deal until 2017 http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/fo...id=con_BTcomHP |
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Sun and Times subscribers get online and mobile clips.
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Poland Vs. Scotland next week is live and exclusive on the Daily Record website.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...d-free-3193666 The friendly was set to be a pay-per-view event until Vauxhall stepped in and signed up with the Record to bring the game to fans and Vauxhall's head of sponsorship, Chris Hornbuckle, said: "We are delighted to have partnered with the Daily Record to deliver the Poland versus Scotland game to both sets of fans for free." "The live streaming of the first senior Scotland international fixture is a ground-breaking opportunity and a significant shift from the traditional model." ---------- Post added at 22:56 ---------- Previous post was at 22:46 ---------- UFC live on Channel 5 http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...channel-5.html Alexander Gustafsson will take on Jimi Manuwa in the inaugural martial arts event, to be broadcast live from 9pm, followed by highlights of the whole event until 11pm. Garry Cook, Executive Vice President and Managing Director of UFC EMEA, said: "This gives the entire British public the opportunity to watch UFC programming live on free to air TV and we are very excited to be working with Channel 5 to provide this experience. Channel 5's Simon Raikes added: "UFC is the best of mixed martial arts, ideal to complement our existing fighting stable. We're genuinely excited to welcome such a riveting sport to Channel 5." |
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Sky Sports freezes BT Sport out of Premier League title race climax.
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Next headline, man has money, spends it...becomes..man refuses to give money to help the poor. Nun walks out of a church, ..becomes..Nun walks away from the church Sad :D |
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Sky had first choice, they chose first. If BT had first choice, and chose (logically) the best games, would that show BT are afraid. I am amazed at the attitude on here towards sky, to make things up, just because you don't like Sky? Sad |
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Personally Sky have done some excellent things in the last 20 years but they let themselves down sometimes with their untoward monopolistic behaviour where they try to squash all their competitors and also they have a track record of increasingly with-holding content or charging the earth for it.
Colin they would have many more friends if they did not behave in such a nefarious manner sometimes but then you cannot expect a leopard to change its spots can one. |
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The majority of people will be more interested in the top half of the table than the bottom. The bigger clubs have more followers and that's also where the neutral interest lies. Sky got pack D which meant all along that they had the best rights package and, more importantly, could control not only their own output, but also BT's. This was known early on, but BT did an effective pr job of suggesting otherwise, which is the only reason that this is news now. Nobody should be surprised that Sky Sports is the place to be for the best Premier League live coverage, it's testament to BT's marketing strategy that they are.
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I think you guys are up far too early on a Sunday morning.......:D
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Colins a very nice man really.:)
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I do not recall denigrating Sky's use of using their right to show all these games. I am sure BT would do the same - I do not recall stating otherwise. BT got scared about Sky encroaching on their BB customers and reacted. The trouble Sky have is that the PL rights effectively lets them charge what they want for sports. They, allegedly, generate huge profits from the sports channels and they will miss those alleged profits greatly. Yup, I had a bad experience with Sky, but that does mean I hate them. As a pure business model, they are to be admired. I had some bad experiences (inbetween many enjoyable ones) whilst working for Iceland for 8 years, does that mean I hate them if I comment on them? I still have bad experiences with VM from to time, does that mean I hate them too?:rolleyes: People coming on here, simply to defend Sky? Equally sad:rolleyes: |
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I merely voiced an opinion, which I thought I prefaced clearly enough as being a personal opinion from someone with an untrained eye. I will make it clearer for you in future. As for which games they should show, I do not (once again) recall denigrating Sky about them using the rights they have paid for. Please tell me where I have.:rolleyes. I am happy for you to quote my words on where I have said Sky are "scared" or "afraid" of BT sports and that Sky should not use their acquired rights to show which games they want. All you seem to be doing is paraphrasing my quotes to extend this discussion. I am happy for you to quote me as I have seen how much you dislike "people making things up, with no basis.":rolleyes: Cheers. |
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Are you really reducing your argument to semantics over very similar words? If that's the best comeback you have, you have already lost. Let it go.
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Sorry for slow reply, but Maverick hits my argument well.
I am not trying to defend sky. I just can not see why Sky is "worried", because they chose the best games. On that basis, any company would be worried, when they make the only correct business decision they can. |
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In terms of the words I chose and the "semantics" of my argument, I will try and explain why I used the word "worried" in the context I did. I can only use my work place as an example of the differences between worried, scared and afraid. (I am not writing this to cause debate, merely to explain why I chose the wording I did.) If my analogy does not work for anyone, I apologize in advance. On Friday night, I was worried about how difficult a day I would have had at work the weekend (because I knew it be would a tough time period and I could foresee many potential problems being thrown my way.) I was not scared of it or afraid about facing a potentially difficult time period. How did I overcome the difficult day and potential problems? I threw everything I had at my disposal to try and negate and potential problems. I was not scared of going to work, and I certainly was not going to be afraid of facing a difficult period. IMHO, Sky (who are worried about customers leaving to join the cheaper option of BT) have used their acquired rights to throw all have to try and stop customers dumping Sky Sports for a cheaper option from BT, and have thus tried to negate any potential problems. I don't think Sky are currently scared of BT or are afraid to face a difficult period as Sky still hold all the cards. There are massive differences between the words worried, scared and afraid and the context they are used in. Back to the point in hand. I believe Sky are worried about the future, especially with the loss of CL football and the potential of losing PL football rights. If you do not think they are worried, that is your opinion. There have been other posts in which other posters have expressed an opinion about the threat of BT Sports to Sky Sports, but it seems the personal thoughts of my untrained eye have offended you. If you are willing to agree to disagree, that works for me. :) As for other businesses worrying, I know Waitrose and John Lewis (since the market crashed) have been, and continue to be extremely worried about their competition even though they continue to make sound business decisions for the benefit of the company. |
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Sky Sports to show womens' Rugby World Cup this summer.
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Peace threatens to break out as BSkyB and BT move closer to deal to share television rights for European clubs
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Watching the Grand Prix through my Now TV box. The picture quality is really good, although it sounds a bit muted but I'm not sure if that's the new regulations at this point (tickets booked for Silverstone so I'll know by July!). Just a shame about the Sky team - Ted Kravitz, all pleased with himself because he'd diagnosed a faulty cylinder based on engine noise, then hammers on about there being no spark plugs in the new engines. They then have to return to him so he can correct himself and provide a waffly explanation of what he really meant, only for Martin Brundle to make out that he knew Kravitz was wrong all along but didn't want to correct him! Very amateurish.
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I have been so impressed i plan on signing up to the movies and ditching Netflix. I bought a friend a box and 4 months movies for £24.99 and have been impressed with the selection of movies on demand as well as the linear channels. The box is also great for streaming content you have on a PC to your TV through Plex. Worth the £9.99 for the box alone for that 1 feature. Don't get me wrong i am very happy with my VM services, but why pay more to VM rather than cutting out the middle man getting the same service at half the cost makes a lot of sense to me as i already have the box. |
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Agreement over future of rugby union's European Cup finally reached.
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TalkTalk raises its broadband and TV package prices.
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Just been having a clear out and found my Apple TV 3 which I had misplaced.
Anyway i plugged in it to see what was available when I updated the software. The question is how long as the NOW sky sports app been on the Apple TV?. £9.99 a day though. I suppose it's suits some people who watch the occasional day of sports that suit them. Cheers |
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"Discovery’s first mission with Eurosport will be to make it more of a local service, according to David Zaslav, president and CEO, Discovery Communications."
When asked if Eurosport would be interested in obaining major sports rights eg the Premier League, he said that it may make joint bids or leave the rights to large broadcasters. I strongly suspect the latter! http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2014/...rosport-plans/ ---------- Post added at 18:52 ---------- Previous post was at 18:47 ---------- Quote:
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GAA to announce broadcasting deal with Sky Sports.
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BT executive: 'count us out' of Channel 5 bid.
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