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jfman 04-10-2019 05:13
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36012710)
Whatever the streaming from them will happen.
It took two days to come up with “whatever”???

I take it up your openreach login doesn’t do economics.

heavyside 07-10-2019 07:18
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
I know I'm probably late to the party but I started a 30-day free trial of Amazon Prime this weekend on my V6. I found the picture and sound quality very good but a bit confusing to sort out the 'included' programmes from the ones that cost extra. It loaded fairly quicly and a nice touch was the ability to choose the size of subtitles (if needed) which would suit screens of different sizes. All in all a good experience and I might well continue with a sub after the trial period as I buy frequently from Amazon and the next day delivery is attractive.

ozsat 07-10-2019 08:16
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Programmes included in Prime have a 'Prime' banner in their picture - but other than that Amazon don't make it clear.

They don't make it easy to find the highest definiation version either.

OLD BOY 07-10-2019 08:51
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36013028)
Programmes included in Prime have a 'Prime' banner in their picture - but other than that Amazon don't make it clear.

They don't make it easy to find the highest definiation version either.
This seems to have been sorted out on the V6 search facility now. Previously, UHD programmes were not coming up, but now the highest definition available appears.

On the Amazon search, I think HD and UHD come up together, it's just a case of choosing which one you want to watch. Additionally, all the 4K stuff comes up on one line on the main screen.

ozsat 07-10-2019 09:04
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Within the Amazon app - selecting The Grand Tour offers HD - not UHD. You have to search for the UHD version.

OLD BOY 07-10-2019 09:20
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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36013039)
Within the Amazon app - selecting The Grand Tour offers HD - not UHD. You have to search for the UHD version.
I've just looked 'Grand Tour' up on my Amazon Fire Stick, and the HD and 4K versions have come up side by side, with the '4K' sign in the top right hand corner of the picture.

When I do the same on the V6, seasons 1,2 and 3 in SD are shown first, followed by the UHD versions. In the V6 version of the app, the UHD sign is indicated most prominently in the title below the picture, although a 'UHD' indicator appears on the top left hand side, in very small print just above the 'Prime' indicator.

Is this not what you are seeing?

ozsat 07-10-2019 09:40
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The Firestick doesn't use the app so gives different results.
Within an app - type 'Clarkson' as the search.
I get 'The Grand Tour' as first choice - but no mention of UHD.

muppetman11 07-10-2019 10:40
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Amazon is a mess in comparison to Netflix.

denphone 07-10-2019 11:37
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36013047)
Amazon is a mess in comparison to Netflix.
No doubt about that MM.

OLD BOY 07-10-2019 12:56
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36013044)
The Firestick doesn't use the app so gives different results.
Within an app - type 'Clarkson' as the search.
I get 'The Grand Tour' as first choice - but no mention of UHD.
That's probably because by not being precise about what you are looking for, other programmes with reference to 'Clarkson' come up. For some reason, the search prioritises HD programmes over UHD. However, a little further along that line, the 4K versions appear.

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The BBC is relaunching its i-Player next year with a brand new look.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...aunch-in-2020/

ozsat 07-10-2019 13:07
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But that is the point of the search - you don't always know what you are looking for - but whatever you decide on should be the best quality offering. It should default to the best quality available - as Netflix does.

If the BBC iPlayer replacement is anything like their BBC iPlayer Radio replacement - then it is goodbye BBC iPlayer.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36013058)
That's probably because by not being precise about what you are looking for, other programmes with reference to 'Clarkson' come up. For some reason, the search prioritises HD programmes over UHD. However, a little further along that line, the 4K versions appear.

---------- Post added at 12:56 ---------- Previous post was at 12:53 ----------

The BBC is relaunching its i-Player next year with a brand new look.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...aunch-in-2020/

OLD BOY 07-10-2019 13:24
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36013064)
But that is the point of the search - you don't always know what you are looking for - but whatever you decide on should be the best quality offering. It should default to the best quality available - as Netflix does.

If the BBC iPlayer replacement is anything like their BBC iPlayer Radio replacement - then it is goodbye BBC iPlayer.
I certainly agree with you that the 4K content should be listed before the HD stuff, but you will always get variances on how these apps work. That won't change until such time as an industry standard is agreed.

As far as the i-Player is concerned, I doubt that this will be going south at all. They will throw resources into improving their site, because as confirmed in 'The Times' today....

'In the long term the Corporation sees iPlayer and its Sounds audio app as the main ways people will access BBC services, suggesting that conventional channels such as BBC One, BBC Two and Radio 4 will be marginalised'

By that, they mean 'before disappearing'! But then, we already know that, don't we? :D

Legendkiller2k 07-10-2019 17:29
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Maybe another nail in the coffin of AMC on BT?- Credit to Petestan on DS.

"Amazon Prime has picked up the new "teenager version of "The Walking Dead" in the UK and other areas, to air in the Spring."

denphone 07-10-2019 17:32
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36013101)
Maybe another nail in the coffin of AMC on BT?- Credit to Petestan on DS.

"Amazon Prime has picked up the new "teenager version of "The Walking Dead" in the UK and other areas, to air in the Spring."
l think its just a matter of time before BT say adios to AMC.

Stuart 07-10-2019 18:15
Re: Netflix/Streaming Services
 
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 36012435)
Just a little reminder to all:

Disney + has zero subscribers
HBOmax has zero subscribers
Peacock has zero subscribers
Apple + has zero subscribers

because they haven't launched yet and as far as many international markets go, some of these services are still at least a year away to launching.

Netflix has 150 million subscribers and counting and in another year will have millions more customers and thousands of hours of more new tv shows and films.

I don't discount the uphill challenge that Netflix will face, but at the moment, at least, Netflix is standing onto of the hill looking way down at the others.

What if Netflix were to take over someone like Lionsgate and/or MGM? That would add a ton of recognisable content. I'm not saying that will happen, but Netflix can adapt as it sees fit.

When all these streamers are launched that will then impact on the media companies' existing services, especially pay tv channels like HBO and ESPN. It's not a zero sum game.

Disney+ will be cheap when it launches, but it needs to offset losses that will inevitably happen as a result of cannibalisation to existing services and loss of revenue from expiring licensing deals. Disney's streamer will need to get a lot of subscribers very quickly, but with Disney's vast content, its doable, but even Netflix will still have rights to some of Disney's content for at least another eighteen months, so it's Disney and the others that has got the main challenge, not Netflix.
The problem is for Netflix is that the newbies, particularly Disney and Apple have very large reserves of cash. They can also invest more heavily that Netflix without going as far into debt.

Netflix's debt isn't a problem, as long as they can keep building their subscriber base, but they are getting near the point where that is likely to level off, which is where their investors might get nervous and pull funding. Competitors with large amounts of cash will make that a worse problem simply because it raises the amount of cash Netflix needs to spend to stay relevant.

Netflix needs to be very careful here. They are in the same position Blockbuster Video was in the 90s (Blockbuster was the largest investor in Hollywood). Look what happened to them. They didn't move with the times, and were ultimately bankrupted by Netflix and Amazon. Blockbuster were in that position about 10-15 years after they started. Netflix was in that position about 10-15 years after it started.

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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36013064)
But that is the point of the search - you don't always know what you are looking for - but whatever you decide on should be the best quality offering. It should default to the best quality available - as Netflix does.

If the BBC iPlayer replacement is anything like their BBC iPlayer Radio replacement - then it is goodbye BBC iPlayer.
I don't think iPlayer is going anywhere. Yes, iPlayer Radio did, but I don't think the BBC have found a way of streaming their radio online they are entirely happy with yet, and I think iPlayer Radio was just one of their attempts. A good one, from what I remember, but they wanted more info than it was designed to give.


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