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Hugh 19-07-2021 18:17

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086872)
Control
The UK is becoming a dictatorship

Project Fear…

RichardCoulter 19-07-2021 18:39

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36086863)

Thanks for your insightful input.

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You can take that up with Witty,Valiance et al they quoted it at the last briefing.

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So, ask the driver to do it in future. Your reaction is juvenile.

My reaction is understandable for someone at risk. I take it you've not lost a family member to covid (yet)?

They will either meet my requirements or I will use another supplier that will.

papa smurf 19-07-2021 18:50

Re: Coronavirus
 
COVID-19: 60% of people being admitted to hospital with coronavirus have been double jabbed, says Vallance

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...lance-12359317

BenMcr 19-07-2021 19:02

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086884)
COVID-19: 60% of people being admitted to hospital with coronavirus have been double jabbed, says Vallance

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...lance-12359317

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He said this was not surprising "because the vaccines are not 100% effective".

"They're very, very effective, but not 100%, and as a higher proportion of the population is double-vaccinated, it's inevitable that those 10% of that very large number remain at risk, and therefore will be amongst the people who both catch the infection and end up in hospital."

RichardCoulter 19-07-2021 19:43

Re: Coronavirus
 
Exactly. The vaccinations are very helpful, but don't guarantee that people won't get the virus, be able to pass it on, end up in hospital or lose their life.

After losing two family members and being extremely clinically vulnerable, I take preventative measures extremely seriously, especially since the variant is much more contagious.

We can't keep everything closed down forever, but I cannot understand why the Government has created a 'do as you please from today' scenario.

I think that cases will now start to rocket so much that we will have no choice but to go back into a full lockdown in the coming months.

Mr K 19-07-2021 19:45

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086907)
Exactly. The vaccinations are very helpful, but don't guarantee that people won't get the virus, be able to pass it on, end up in hospital or lose their life.

After losing two family members and being extremely clinically vulnerable, I take preventative measures extremely seriously, especially since the variant is much more contagious.

We can't keep everything closed down forever, but I cannot understand why the Government has created a 'do as you please from today' scenario.

Their personal investments depend on the plebs getting back to the treadmill Richard. Let others take the risk while they reap the rewards.

Carth 19-07-2021 20:01

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36086909)
Their personal investments depend on the plebs getting back to the treadmill Richard. Let others take the risk while they reap the rewards.

"plebs getting back to the treadmill"

not a very nice thing to say, considering many 'plebs' have been on the 'treadmill' continually throughout the whole thing.

Maybe you should put that sort of stuff on your rhubarb instead of on here?

Mad Max 19-07-2021 20:05

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36086772)
How is it 'Project Fear' where's your evidence to support this ?

This isn't 'Freedom Day' we're not 'free' until we can control this pandemic at a local, national & global level. Our actions from today have the potential to cause significant suffering to others. Our actions should be considered & thoughtful. Unlike the government's.

Oh for goodness sake don't get your knickers in a twist, if you want to live under your stairs, then go ahead, millions of people are sick of all this crap and want to get on with their lives, at the end of the day if Covid doesn't get you something else will. :)

papa smurf 19-07-2021 20:13

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36086910)
"plebs getting back to the treadmill"

not a very nice thing to say, considering many 'plebs' have been on the 'treadmill' continually throughout the whole thing.

Maybe you should put that sort of stuff on your rhubarb instead of on here?

Lock down means middle class people hiding away while working class people bring everything they want to their front door;)

Mad Max 19-07-2021 20:25

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086790)
This argument does not stack up, one iota.

In January this year when cases were reaching 50-60 thousand positive cases a day, deaths were at or around over 1,000+, last few days has seen same amount of cases, but significantly amount of reduced deaths. The vaccines are doing their thing.

We cannot stay in lockdown limbo forever, our children have missed out on education for a long time, they’re essentially a year behind, this isn’t good. Also people’s mental health are suffering, suicides up tenfold. COVID-19 is something we just gonna have to live with, like the flu. Hospital admissions are up, but deaths aren’t and we have to get back to increased freedoms.

The hospitality sector is on its knees, so I’m glad we’re on the road to recovery, deaths are down, the easing of restrictions can now stop the real suffering.


Spot on....:clap:

pip08456 19-07-2021 20:38

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086884)
COVID-19: 60% of people being admitted to hospital with coronavirus have been double jabbed, says Vallance

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...lance-12359317

Since corrected.

Quote:

Correcting a statistic I gave at the press conference today, 19 July. About 60% of hospitalisations from covid are not from double vaccinated people, rather 60% of hospitalisations from covid are currently from unvaccinated people.
https://twitter.com/uksciencechief/s...04235356213252

papa smurf 19-07-2021 21:32

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36086919)

Released the wrong made up data then.

Carth 19-07-2021 21:50

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086925)
Released the wrong made up data then.

Nah, just a simple mistake that any expert in charge of the health of UK citizens could make . . nothing to suggest he's done it before . . . probably

papa smurf 19-07-2021 21:54

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36086927)
Nah, just a simple mistake that any expert in charge of the health of UK citizens could make . . nothing to suggest he's done it before . . . probably

Probably had the graph upside down as well;)

Paul 19-07-2021 23:56

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36086884)
COVID-19: 60% of people being admitted to hospital with coronavirus have been double jabbed, says Vallance

Not true, and since corrected.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...lance-12359317

Then again, as the vast majority get vaccinated, a percentage of those still ill will of course be people who have been vaccinated.

Its not 100% effective and no one has ever claimed it is.


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