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djfunkdup 16-01-2019 20:51

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35979654)
I don’t think you’ll find I have suggested any such thing on this forum.

It was also merely an observation on Corbyn’s next steps. I’ve always said MPs want to remain but not get the blame for it.


Undertone : Noun.;)

nomadking 16-01-2019 20:52

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35979640)
Any evidence to back up that proposition, please?

So UKIP and Leave supporters aren't negatively reported on, harassed, etc?


There are countless examples of where leave supporters are "attacked" one way or another.


Love to know where the examples are of UKIP/leave supporters being treated positively.
Quote:

Nigel Farage was forced to cancel an appearance in Northampton today, as tensions flared ahead of his visit....
A group of around 30 activists chanting 'refugees are welcome here' and carrying banners saying 'no to Ukip' blocked the entrance to the Market Square, where Farage was expected to arrive as part of his Brexit bus tour of the UK.

...
A Ukip spokesperson insisted Farage wasn't afraid to face the protesters but that with "a wet ground and many pensioners" it seemed silly to take the risk. He added that the "masked anarchists were clearly not up for debate".
While the protesters claimed it was a victory for the town, some Brexit supporters were angered by the decision.
"I'm disgusted that it's been cancelled just because of that little group of protesters," one said, as news spread that the event was being cancelled.

Damien 16-01-2019 20:52

Re: Brexit
 
I think it's more likely a version of May's Deal with some Labour amendments, such as a customs union, is gonna pass.

Hugh 16-01-2019 20:53

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35979656)
Undertone : Noun.;)

Undertone: member of the Undertones, Irish punk rock band. :D

Damien 16-01-2019 20:53

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35979657)
So UKIP and Leave supporters aren't negatively reported on, harassed, etc?


There are countless examples of where leave supporters are "attacked" one way or another.


Love to know where the examples are of UKIP/leave supporters being treated positively.

There are a minority of people who embrace violence on the 'Leave side' too. Doesn't mean anyone is being silenced.

papa smurf 16-01-2019 20:54

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35979643)
Perhaps, with new information available, and/or seeing how they behaved, he decided to change his mind - it happens...

Every one has the right to change their mind but he did say "what's worse is there was no appetite amongst the public for it until Dave called the referendum"
How can a former UKIP supporter suggest there was no appetite for it until Dave called for a referendum,leaving the EU was UKIP'S sole aim , admittedly they had a smaller share of the vote but they did muster 4 million supporters ,and he was once one of them.

djfunkdup 16-01-2019 20:55

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35979659)
Undertone: member of the Undertones, Irish punk rock band. :D

Are teenage dreams so hard to beat
Everytime she walks down the street
Another girl in the neighbourhood
Wish she was mine, she looks so good

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night ................... :p::p:

Hugh 16-01-2019 21:00

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35979661)
Every one has the right to change their mind but he did say "what's worse is there was no appetite amongst the public for it until Dave called the referendum"
How can a former UKIP supporter suggest there was no appetite for it until Dave called for a referendum,leaving the EU was UKIP'S sole aim , admittedly they had a smaller share of the vote but they did muster 4 million supporters ,and he was once one of them.

I was answering your point about him once being a UKIP voter...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35979662)
Are teenage dreams so hard to beat
Everytime she walks down the street
Another girl in the neighbourhood
Wish she was mine, she looks so good

I wanna hold her wanna hold her tight
Get teenage kicks right through the night ................... :p::p:

Or, another Undertones song put it
Quote:

He'd stay awake at night
Lying in his bed
No one ever listened
To a single word he said
Jimmy Jimmy ...
Silly boy Silly boy Silly boy
Such a silly boy

djfunkdup 16-01-2019 21:07

Re: Brexit
 
LOL :hyper: Nice try Hugh nice try . :spin: :D

Pierre 16-01-2019 21:10

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35979656)
Undertone : Noun.;)

Undertone:Feargal Sharkey :)

jfman 16-01-2019 21:10

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35979656)
Undertone : Noun.;)

Far from it. A search of the forum you’ll see I’ve laid out the paths to remain. All require perpetual parliamentary impasse and an extension. A general election risks solving that. Unlikely to, but possible.

This vote was always going to go down party lines. It’s Parliament’s next steps that are important. Corbyn’s are interesting because he has to come out for something sooner or later. The Labour Party were never going to solve this crisis on their own.

Pierre 16-01-2019 21:11

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35979659)
Undertone: member of the Undertones, Irish punk rock band. :D

Doh, beat me to it.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35979663)
I was answering your point about him once being a UKIP voter...

---------- Post added at 21:00 ---------- Previous post was at 20:57 ----------

Or, another Undertones song put it

I’ve got a cousin called Kevin.

mrmistoffelees 16-01-2019 21:14

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35979658)
I think it's more likely a version of May's Deal with some Labour amendments, such as a customs union, is gonna pass.

So, not Brexit then

djfunkdup 16-01-2019 21:18

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35979672)
So, not Brexit then

29th March dear :)

Damien 16-01-2019 21:19

Re: Brexit
 
Well we would still be substantially less connected to the EU than before. Not in the full single market, no freedom of movement and no ECJ rulings. TBH Considering the Parliamentary maths and that they cannot get rid of May I am still surprised the ERG didn't back May's deal which had the above and really only the backstop which in theory would go eventually. That way Brexit would be done and once out it's much harder to get back in than it currently would be to stay in.

Any deal now is likely to be closer to the EU than May's deal was.

I think the whole process has made people less willing to compromise on anything. I think if you offered May's deal in the aftermath of the election Brexiters would have taken it no problem.


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