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TheDaddy 16-01-2019 19:41

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35979543)
Customs Union coming our way soon. i.e. EU membership in all but name without the voting rights. Which means all this has been a waste of time, money and divided the country unnecessarily.

Unnecessarily and what's worse is there was no appetite amongst the public for it until Dave called the referendum, the EU was waaaaayyyyy down the public's list of priorities until then, who knows if he'd stuck to the big society instead of letting Gideon derail it with austerity he might have got away with it to

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35979631)
Exactly as turkeys don't vote for Christmas do they.

It's not entirely unknown...

nomadking 16-01-2019 19:53

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35979632)
Unnecessarily and what's worse is there was no appetite amongst the public for it until Dave called the referendum, the EU was waaaaayyyyy down the public's list of priorities until then, who knows if he'd stuck to the big society instead of letting Gideon derail it with austerity he might have got away with it to

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It's not entirely unknown...

A large proportion wanted leave for a long time before any referendum. They just never had a genuine opportunity to vote on that. Plus nobody was really allowed to complain about it, and still aren't.

papa smurf 16-01-2019 20:01

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35979632)
Unnecessarily and what's worse is there was no appetite amongst the public for it until Dave called the referendum, the EU was waaaaayyyyy down the public's list of priorities until then, who knows if he'd stuck to the big society instead of letting Gideon derail it with austerity he might have got away with it to[COLOR="Silver"]




Didn't you at one time support UKIP.

Hugh 16-01-2019 20:12

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35979634)
A large proportion wanted leave for a long time before any referendum. They just never had a genuine opportunity to vote on that. Plus nobody was really allowed to complain about it, and still aren't.

Any evidence to back up that proposition, please?

1andrew1 16-01-2019 20:17

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35979621)
A new buzz word has surfaced today 'Brino'- Brexit in name only.

Our German chums don't mess around on the language front:
Was für ein Brexshit!

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35979640)
Any evidence to back up that proposition, please?

There clearly is none hence no link.
The Express, Sun, Telegraph, Mail and others made a business from complaining about the EU.

Hugh 16-01-2019 20:19

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35979632)
Unnecessarily and what's worse is there was no appetite amongst the public for it until Dave called the referendum, the EU was waaaaayyyyy down the public's list of priorities until then, who knows if he'd stuck to the big society instead of letting Gideon derail it with austerity he might have got away with it to

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It's not entirely unknown...

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35979637)
Didn't you at one time support UKIP.

Perhaps, with new information available, and/or seeing how they behaved, he decided to change his mind - it happens...

jfman 16-01-2019 20:22

Re: Brexit
 
Well Corbyn (in theory) now has the scope to back a second referendum saying options have been exhausted and May isn’t interested in meaningful negotiations with the opposition. Whether the second part of that sentence is true or not is irrelevant- the judgement will fall down on party lines.

1andrew1 16-01-2019 20:23

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35979643)
Perhaps, with new information available, and/or seeing how they behaved, he decided to change his mind - it happens...

He did until quite recently, ie about 10 UKIP leaders ago. :D

richard s 16-01-2019 20:24

Re: Brexit
 
As Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU by a margin of 56% to 44% why can they not have a referendum on the hard border issue. Stuff the DUP.

djfunkdup 16-01-2019 20:35

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35979644)
Well Corbyn (in theory) now has the scope to back a second referendum saying options have been exhausted and May isn’t interested in meaningful negotiations with the opposition. Whether the second part of that sentence is true or not is irrelevant- the judgement will fall down on party lines.


LOL Bless.. The sound of a gutted man :D:D

You really did think TM was going to lose this vote tonight :p:

Onwards and upwards :):)

Hugh 16-01-2019 20:35

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35979645)
He did until quite recently, ie about 10 UKIP leaders ago. :D

Well, as David Davis said "“If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy.”

mrmistoffelees 16-01-2019 20:43

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35979648)
Well, as David Davis said "“If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy.”

Quite

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Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35979647)
LOL Bless.. The sound of a gutted man :D:D

You really did think TM was going to lose this vote tonight :p:

Onwards and upwards :):)


Onwards and upwards to what ? How exactly have this evenings proceedings crystallised anything whatsoever?

Mick 16-01-2019 20:46

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35979648)
Well, as David Davis said "“If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy.”

There is no evidence people have changed their minds, piffling little polls with minute sample sizes compared to the actual result are totally irrelevant.

Polls that keep happening are very similar to what they were before the referendum and leave still won.

We simply do not keep having the same vote over and over, until the result goes the way of the democracy abusers.

djfunkdup 16-01-2019 20:48

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35979652)

We simply do not keep having the same vote over and over, until the result goes the way of the democracy abusers.

:clap: :clap:

They are petulant children Mick,But there are naughty steps for them and they will be firmly placed on them :)

jfman 16-01-2019 20:48

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35979647)
LOL Bless.. The sound of a gutted man :D:D

You really did think TM was going to lose this vote tonight :p:

Onwards and upwards :):)

I don’t think you’ll find I have suggested any such thing on this forum.

It was also merely an observation on Corbyn’s next steps. I’ve always said MPs want to remain but not get the blame for it.


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