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jfman 17-07-2021 18:35

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36086605)
They should take France off the amber list then.

Its like, "this is the rule .... except when it isnt" :rolleyes:

They’re putting France on the list before they put us on the list. It allows them to continue the charade of success.

RichardCoulter 17-07-2021 18:55

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Sajid Javid now has the virus and has had two jabs according to the BBC evening news.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...k-57874744.amp

Mad Max 17-07-2021 20:52

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We're all doomed I'll tell ya, all doomed....:o:

Mr K 17-07-2021 21:01

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086610)
Sajid Javid now has the virus and has had two jabs according to the BBC evening news.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...k-57874744.amp

Getting Covid is a rights of passage to being in Boris's Cabinet of Millionaires. Ignore the rules as they only apply to the plebs, if only someone had told the virus...

Chris 17-07-2021 21:06

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36086590)
I’m not conflating anything. It’s a fact.

Adequate is quite a step down from overwhelming success but at least it shows you aren’t totally indoctrinated.

Actually, given that we are still less than 2 years into a global pandemic caused by a novel virus, the fact that we have a vaccine manifestly capable of reducing the vast majority of cases to something no more serious than a bad cold *is* an overwhelming success. The hard correlation between infections and hospitalisation and death has been broken, even in cases of the Indian/Delta variant that is around twice as infectious as the original Wuhan strain from which the vaccine was developed. In the face of this, to regard the global vaccination effort as anything less than overwhelmingly successful is perverse.

jfman 17-07-2021 21:41

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36086635)
Actually, given that we are still less than 2 years into a global pandemic caused by a novel virus, the fact that we have a vaccine manifestly capable of reducing the vast majority of cases to something no more serious than a bad cold *is* an overwhelming success. The hard correlation between infections and hospitalisation and death has been broken, even in cases of the Indian/Delta variant that is around twice as infectious as the original Wuhan strain from which the vaccine was developed. In the face of this, to regard the global vaccination effort as anything less than overwhelmingly successful is perverse.

You should get a job with Public Health England the way you conflate the global vaccination effort with ours as if they are one and the same, and having the same outcomes.

I’d hold the bus on the “mission accomplished” banner for the royal yacht just yet while tens of thousands more die and hundreds of thousands get hospitalised later this year.

Chris 17-07-2021 23:32

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Actually I was thinking in terms of the development and manufacture of the vaccine moreso than the getting of it into arms. The UK’s leading role here continues to be impressive and will in the long run pay dividends all over the world, as the Oxford-Astra vaccine is, as predicted here by several of us, becoming the workhorse of the world. I fully understand that your irrational hatred of the British State makes these facts terribly hard for you to swallow.

jfman 17-07-2021 23:38

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36086669)
Actually I was thinking in terms of the development and manufacture of the vaccine moreso than the getting of it into arms. The UK’s leading role here continues to be impressive and will in the long run pay dividends all over the world, as the Oxford-Astra vaccine is, as predicted here by several of us, becoming the workhorse of the world. I fully understand that your irrational hatred of the British State makes these facts terribly hard for you to swallow.

Haha. The workhorse of the world - such to the extent our Chief Scientific Adviser is modelling 20 million infections?

As I’ve always said the proof will be in the pudding. It’s not even clear this will get us out of the pandemic, however some of you would stamp a Union Flag on a placebo and cheer it on, such is the extent of being blinded by British nationalism.

Mick 17-07-2021 23:45

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36086671)
Haha. The workhorse of the world - such to the extent our Chief Scientific Adviser is modelling 20 million infections?

As I’ve always said the proof will be in the pudding. It’s not even clear this will get us out of the pandemic, however some of you would stamp a Union Flag on a placebo and cheer it on, such is the extent of being blinded by British nationalism.

Coming from the guy championing Scottish Nationalism, most of the time. :rolleyes:

Also, watch your tone. :nono:

Carth 17-07-2021 23:48

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Our Chief Scientific Adviser could model next years lingerie accessories for petite women for all I care . . . he may have to fiddle his figure to make them fit though :D

jfman 18-07-2021 00:00

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36086674)
Coming from the guy championing Scottish Nationalism, most of the time. :rolleyes:

Also, watch your tone. :nono:

I don’t champion Scottish nationalism, I just don’t buy into the British colonial trope that nobody could possibly, ever, anywhere survive and be successful without England.

The Irish Republic now has twice the GDP per capita of the UK.

noel43 18-07-2021 08:08

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36086582)
Johnson will get the “pilot” of daily testing and as long as you test negative you can go about your day, just like Kate at Wimbledon.

On a technicality until Saj is PCR confirmed they wont contact trace. Would be hilarious if Johnson caught it, having had Covid and presumably fully vaccinated.

So one rule for them one for us.

Damien 18-07-2021 08:29

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Seems like a bit of a contradiction of their own messaging.

They said just the other week that the requirement to self-isolate will not end until August even whilst businesses are worried about everyone getting pinged by the app and having no staff.

Of course when they face such inconvenience themselves then that's a different matter.

The amount of contempt politicians have for people is always amazing.

Chris 18-07-2021 09:22

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36086677)
The Irish Republic now has twice the GDP per capita of the UK.

Not difficult to achieve when you use aggressive tax policy to attract the world’s biggest companies to place their offices in your territory. It’s amazing how many Apple products are ‘sold’ by the Irish. Oddly enough their standard of living and likelihood of going bankrupt in a financial crash don’t seem commensurate.

Fortunately the developed world seems to be coming to its collective senses on this sort of thing. So I guess within a few years we’re going to see whether the Celtic Tiger was made of paper all along.

Mick 18-07-2021 11:00

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BREAKING: Prime Minister, Boris Johnson and Chancellor, Rishi Sunak will now Self Isolate after earlier declaring that they will not.


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