Cable Forum - Brexit (Old)

Nope, I think at some point May will blink, Article 50 will be delayed and then it will go to a 2nd referendum. From there however all bets are off.

EDIT: and to add to that, the result must be accepted, regardless of the result.

Now we have some exposure of how a deal would work, we have an idea of how no deal would work. and of course we know what happens if we remain.

There can be no complaints this time from remain supporters. if there were to be a deal or no deal majority.

ianch99

16-01-2019 16:54

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35979580)

Nope, I think at some point May will blink, Article 50 will be delayed and then it will go to a 2nd referendum. From there however all bets are off.

My take as well ..

Although there is a chance of the EU giving way enough (on the backstop) to appease enough doubters to get her amended deal over the line. A long shot since it lost by 200 ..

One thing I do like is that MP's get to vote on a deal until they get it right where the country only gets one go ... :)

BenMcr

16-01-2019 17:00

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35979584)

Although there is a chance of the EU giving way enough (on the backstop) to appease enough doubters to get her amended deal over the line. A long shot since it lost by 200 ..

But they won't do that unless or until the UK Government and Parliament can actually pick and agree on what they want.

Currently there is no amended proposal - or any other agreed proposal.

Pierre

16-01-2019 17:28

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35979564)

Sorry, there is no mandate for No Deal. Not in the House and not from the Leave campaign:

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2019/01/13.jpg

We could have done that, but after the vote the EU said that they would not entertain any negotiations until Article 50 had been triggered. So I agree, that was a statement they could not back up as they couldn't speak for the other side.

And subsequently EU said they will not entertain any negotiations on a new deal until the withdrawal agreement is signed off.

So doubly wrong.

Damien

16-01-2019 17:52

Re: Brexit

It was pretty obvious at the time as well that the EU would not enter negotiations until article 50 was triggered as the deadline gave them leverage. Whereas waiting until we were happy with the talks would give us leverage as we could hold article 50 over their heads throughout, causing as much uncertainty as possible.

pip08456

16-01-2019 18:06

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35979571)

Sorry, you are wrong again. As Hugh has said:

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Vote_Leave

I can see the sarcasm was lost on both of you.

I'll use a smiley after to indicate next time.

The result of the referendum was leave.

mrmistoffelees

16-01-2019 18:20

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35979611)

I can see the sarcasm was lost on both of you.

I'll use a smiley after to indicate next time.

The result of the referendum was leave.

Indeed, but you didn't specify how... you allowed the politicians to choose how it should be done. Any argument otherwise is revisionist.

Angua

16-01-2019 18:25

Re: Brexit

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35979601)

People voted leave swayed by various different claims from the Leave campaign.

The fact these promises were not possible under the Treaty of Rome EU rules, seems to have been ignored in an effort to sell the Leave dream.

RichardCoulter

16-01-2019 19:07

Re: Brexit

A new buzz word has surfaced today 'Brino'- Brexit in name only.