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That's right and Netflix shares have taken a tumble too, with the prospect of increased competition with Disney+ launching in November.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...ck-to-plummet/

Customers also are very price sensitive as Muppetman has repeatedly stated in the past.

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And I don't like this news at all!

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...vr-recordings/

TiVo seems to have forgotten its basic principles! I hope this doesn't dribble through to VM's V6s.

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TiVo is testing inserting pre-roll ads on DVR recordings.

According to a report from Zats Not Funny, some viewers have begun to see adverts preceding their recorded videos. It is believed that this move is a part of a wider move from TiVo to monetise its platform.

l thought you would have realised that this was absolutely inevitable OB as its all about monetising in this modern age.

oliver1948uk

23-09-2019 15:47

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If it keeps down costs to the customer, the adverts at the beginning seem a good idea to me. We don't all have bottomless pockets!

OLD BOY

23-09-2019 15:50

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36011217)

Customers also are very price sensitive as Muppetman has repeatedly stated in the past.

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l thought you would have realised that this was absolutely inevitable OB as its all about monetising in this modern age.

I haven't read any posts that have forecast the addition of compulsory ads for recordings on an STB!

denphone

23-09-2019 15:50

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Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 36011223)

If it keeps down costs to the customer, the adverts at the beginning seem a good idea to me. We don't all have bottomless pockets!

Exactly as adverts have never worried me one iota as if it keep prices down that seems a fair swap to me..

OLD BOY

23-09-2019 15:51

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Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 36011223)

If it keeps down costs to the customer, the adverts at the beginning seem a good idea to me. We don't all have bottomless pockets!

How is that keeping costs down?

denphone

23-09-2019 15:59

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36011227)

How is that keeping costs down?

Adverts is a extra way of monetising content.

OLD BOY

23-09-2019 17:18

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36011229)

Adverts is a extra way of monetising content.

I appreciate that, Den, but that's not the answer to the question I asked! The cost of subscribing with VM for television services isn't going to reduce costs for customers.

I suppose we can be thankful that you will be able to fast forward over them...and through the ads thzt prscede the programme you want to watch from the TV channel! Grr!

Legendkiller2k

23-09-2019 17:48

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Exactly as adverts have never worried me one iota as if it keep prices down that seems a fair swap to me..

Netflix have made it perfectly clear they won't have adverts https://www.thewrap.com/netflix-to-remain-ad-free/

denphone

23-09-2019 17:54

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36011251)

Netflix have made it perfectly clear they won't have adverts https://www.thewrap.com/netflix-to-remain-ad-free/

That will change l suspect given the considerable opportunity of monetising its content especially when other big streamers will be doing it.

gba93

23-09-2019 18:21

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36011252)

That will change l suspect given the considerable opportunity of monetising its content especially when other big streamers will be doing it.

"No Adverts" could be their USP in days to come

denphone

23-09-2019 18:26

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Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 36011254)

"No Adverts" could be their USP in days to come

Not if their bottom line comes under pressure.

jfman

23-09-2019 19:50

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Netflix shares taking a pasting from their high in July. Obviously nobody is expecting it to deliver the shareholder value that some were predicting.

OLD BOY

23-09-2019 21:27

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36011252)

That will change l suspect given the considerable opportunity of monetising its content especially when other big streamers will be doing it.

If it does change, the ads will be on a lower cost or free subscription. There must always be a subscription option with no ads.

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Not if their bottom line comes under pressure.

Their bottom line will come under a lot of pressure if they try to put ads on the subscription offer.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36011268)

Netflix shares taking a pasting from their high in July. Obviously nobody is expecting it to deliver the shareholder value that some were predicting.

Uncertainty always has an adverse impact on share prices.

denphone

23-09-2019 21:33

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36011276)

Their bottom line will come under a lot of pressure if they try to put ads on the subscription offer.

Well that is what is going to happen sooner rather then later and l suspect for all your bleating about adverts you will put up with it in the end if it means cheaper subscriptions.

jfman

23-09-2019 22:10

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36011276)

Uncertainty always has an adverse impact on share prices.

Well, yes, as I’ve been saying. The ability of Netflix to maintain its market share, content offering, keep prices low and service a mountain of debt are massive uncertainties in what will be a hugely competitive marketplace.

I was mocked earlier in the year for describing the position as “precarious” but having lost 30% of its value since July I can’t help but feel the market sees the huge risks the way I do.

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