Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36186577)

A relative who worked in the meat trade most of his life told me that, whilst beef-on-the-hoof prices have been fairly stable for a while now, extra costs are being added at every stage of production, at a level that has never been seen before.

Transporters, abattoirs, cutters and distributors have all increases prices for their work, and that has meant a big spike in the price of beef at wholesalers, and the final prices at shops are at record levels.

Labour's NI hikes for employers are going to ramp all this up even higher, meaning "hard working people" are going to bear the brunt, as expected.

We all know that these price increases will appear in all forms of commerce, from products to services, and costs will be passed down to the final buyers.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186541)

Spot on, all politicians do lie. I mean if someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about “all guidance was followed” regarding lockdown while the likes of us couldn’t even attend funerals of loved ones, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about there being no parties in Downing Street during restrictions, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that Boris lied about not being told directly about Chris Pincher, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about the NHS getting £350m a week from Brexit, fair enough. If someone doesn’t care that he lied about there being no cross-border checks after Brexit, fair enough. All whilst he was Prime Minister.

But no, let’s just focus on what the current Chancellor said about what happened before she was in office (all the while overlooking Boris’ shining record of lying before he was PM).

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36186577)

A relative who worked in the meat trade most of his life told me that, whilst beef-on-the-hoof prices have been fairly stable for a while now, extra costs are being added at every stage of production, at a level that has never been seen before.

Transporters, abattoirs, cutters and distributors have all increases prices for their work, and that has meant a big spike in the price of beef at wholesalers, and the final prices at shops are at record levels.

Labour's NI hikes for employers are going to ramp all this up even higher, meaning "hard working people" are going to bear the brunt, as expected.

We all know that these price increases will appear in all forms of commerce, from products to services, and costs will be passed down to the final buyers.

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36186577)

A relative who worked in the meat trade most of his life told me that, whilst beef-on-the-hoof prices have been fairly stable for a while now, extra costs are being added at every stage of production, at a level that has never been seen before.

Transporters, abattoirs, cutters and distributors have all increases prices for their work, and that has meant a big spike in the price of beef at wholesalers, and the final prices at shops are at record levels.

Labour's NI hikes for employers are going to ramp all this up even higher, meaning "hard working people" are going to bear the brunt, as expected.

We all know that these price increases will appear in all forms of commerce, from products to services, and costs will be passed down to the final buyers.

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36186588)

What Boris did or did not do had NO effect on me, so I don't care. In the end if didn't effect you, why would you?. Her knowledge, work experience etc, does effect her decisions so will effect me.:cool:

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Don't think labour has grasped this.and definitely Richard hasn't :D

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36186594)

Not everyone is solipsistic…

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36186594)

Not everyone is solipsistic…

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36186594)

Not everyone is solipsistic…

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36186595)

no most people are just selfish barstewards :)

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36186596)

Really , love your faith in mankind. Clearly charity's have not got the right mailing lists:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36186587)

you're telling me, Fillet Steak at the pub used to be around £25, £32 presently.

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36186588)

What Boris did or did not do had NO effect on me, so I don't care. In the end if didn't effect you, why would you?. Her knowledge, work experience etc, does effect her decisions so will effect me.:cool:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36186599)

Depends on weight dry or wet aged etc

For a 7oz dry aged ex dairy fillet iirc last time I had one I paid about £36 not including sauces and sides

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36186601)

So a proven liar who lied before he took power and continued to lie while PM didn't bother you at all, yet someone who doesn't actually have the power to change anything (all Chancellor decisions need to be signed off by the PM) says one thing and that worries you more?

I mean, if you just admitted you have double standards when it comes to political parties, that would be something.

Reeves has already said Labour won't put up any taxes for the remainder of this term. That's something to set your yardstick by. If she goes back on that then yes, you'll be heading in the right direction.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36186592)

If each stage in a chain has their costs increased by NI, then those links add up. Eg 0.2% increase in costs in one stage, might not look too bad, but after 5 of those stages you get a 1% increase by the last stage

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36186605)

Too much.

I’ve had to downgrade to Rib Eye / Rump, which is ok, if cooked right with sauce …still good.

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Jesus………..

I think we’ve heard it….all before………many times……….we get it………….you don’t like Boris…………or double standards………WE KNOW….

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36186588)

What Boris did or did not do had NO effect on me, so I don't care. In the end if didn't effect you, why would you?. Her knowledge, work experience etc, does effect her decisions so will effect me.:cool: