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Hugh 01-12-2021 09:24

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36103665)
A bit of your bias coming out here, jfman.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36103538)
Good idea. While they are at it, they could also get Acorn and provide it free. VM must have a lot of money sloshing about now that they don’t have to fork out for Fox, the lost Disney channels, etc. Spending it on some of the cheaper streamers sounds good to me!



Oh, the irony…. :D

Legendkiller2k 01-12-2021 13:47

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36103629)

I remember the big raid in Italy 2 years ago took out a lot of the IPTV services, as it stands it is not illegal to watch the dodgey iptv in the uk at the moment this is expected to change though, however providing the service is a different matter entirely and can carry upto 10 years in prison.

As i've said before if anyone is using one of these dodgey iptv services have a good secure no logs vpn and make sure the vpn provider is not in any of the 5 eyes regions.

Jaymoss 01-12-2021 13:54

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36103703)
I remember the big raid in Italy 2 years ago took out a lot of the IPTV services, as it stands it is not illegal to watch the dodgey iptv in the uk at the moment this is expected to change though, however providing the service is a different matter entirely and can carry upto 10 years in prison.

As i've said before if anyone is using one of these dodgey iptv services have a good secure no logs vpn and make sure the vpn provider is not in any of the 5 eyes regions.

Most use it for the sport and most IPTV services are blocked on match day so a vpn is needed to get round that anyway.


In the US a lot of the providers charge almost as much as Sky charges in the UK for the full package it is crazy

Legendkiller2k 01-12-2021 15:20

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May be account specific so woth checking if you have NOW, Sky sports offer £14.99p/m for 3 months nice price for over the festive season.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36103706)
Most use it for the sport and most IPTV services are blocked on match day so a vpn is needed to get round that anyway.


In the US a lot of the providers charge almost as much as Sky charges in the UK for the full package it is crazy

I have a friend on Comcast in USA (it's how i get my NBC Sports they let me use their Xfinity in exchange for my Nowtv) and she pays over $300 a month for her cable tv and broadband crazy prices and maybe a warning to SKY customers as Comcast own SKY now.

OLD BOY 01-12-2021 17:08

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36103720)
May be account specific so woth checking if you have NOW, Sky sports offer £14.99p/m for 3 months nice price for over the festive season.

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I have a friend on Comcast in USA (it's how i get my NBC Sports they let me use their Xfinity in exchange for my Nowtv) and she pays over $300 a month for her cable tv and broadband crazy prices and maybe a warning to SKY customers as Comcast own SKY now.

I think they would lose a lot of customers to VM in cabled areas if they tried that.

1andrew1 01-12-2021 17:32

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36103720)
I have a friend on Comcast in USA (it's how i get my NBC Sports they let me use their Xfinity in exchange for my Nowtv) and she pays over $300 a month for her cable tv and broadband crazy prices and maybe a warning to SKY customers as Comcast own SKY now.

The US is generally a less competitive broadband market and Comcast enjoys a tasty 44% profit margin on its broadband business.

Here are the costs from 20 December 2021. Prices shown are for Center City and South Philadelphia.

TV
Broadcast TV fee $19.15
Regional sports fee $12.70
HD TV box and remote $8.50
Expanded Basic cable $45.27

Internet
Performance (Up to 100Mbs) $83.95 (£63.04)
Performance Pro (Up to 200 Mbs) $98.95 (£74.31)
Blast (Up to 400 Mbs) $103.95 (£78.06)
Gigabit $113.95 (£85.57)
Source: https://www.inquirer.com/business/co...-20211201.html

Raider999 01-12-2021 20:27

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36103758)
The US is generally a less competitive broadband market and Comcast enjoys a tasty 44% profit margin on its broadband business.

Here are the costs from 20 December 2021. Prices shown are for Center City and South Philadelphia.

TV
Broadcast TV fee $19.15
Regional sports fee $12.70
HD TV box and remote $8.50
Expanded Basic cable $45.27

Internet
Performance (Up to 100Mbs) $83.95 (£63.04)
Performance Pro (Up to 200 Mbs) $98.95 (£74.31)
Blast (Up to 400 Mbs) $103.95 (£78.06)
Gigabit $113.95 (£85.57)
Source: https://www.inquirer.com/business/co...-20211201.html


Even allowing for the fact $1 usually translates to £1 for these sort of things, the costs for TV seems low compared to UK - especially the sports option.

However the broadband costs seem to be a lot higher.

Itshim 01-12-2021 20:41

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36103786)
Even allowing for the fact $1 usually translates to £1 for these sort of things, the costs for TV seems low compared to UK - especially the sports option.

However the broadband costs seem to be a lot higher.

Never took sports and paid an all in cost of around $150

Legendkiller2k 02-12-2021 00:28

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36103752)
I think they would lose a lot of customers to VM in cabled areas if they tried that.

Oh Liberty Global are far from innocent they would no doubt follow suite.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36103758)
The US is generally a less competitive broadband market and Comcast enjoys a tasty 44% profit margin on its broadband business.

Here are the costs from 20 December 2021. Prices shown are for Center City and South Philadelphia.

TV
Broadcast TV fee $19.15
Regional sports fee $12.70
HD TV box and remote $8.50
Expanded Basic cable $45.27

Internet
Performance (Up to 100Mbs) $83.95 (£63.04)
Performance Pro (Up to 200 Mbs) $98.95 (£74.31)
Blast (Up to 400 Mbs) $103.95 (£78.06)
Gigabit $113.95 (£85.57)
Source: https://www.inquirer.com/business/co...-20211201.html

Router rental fee around $20p/m add on add ons too like HBO, Showtime, Starz, NFL etc the costs soon mount up.

1andrew1 02-12-2021 00:34

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36103863)
Router rental fee around $20p/m add on add ons too like HBO, Showtime, Starz, NFL etc the costs soon mount up.

I guess we have LLU unbundling and geography to thank for our more competitive broadband market.

spankysmagicpian 02-12-2021 08:24

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Maybe OT but I can't find a thread for this - quick question.

I watched the Man City match last night on Amazon and it had the 'cinema feel' to the picture although of course, in HD. Flipped over to the Liverpool / Everton match after the coverage had finished and it was a 'normal' HD picture as in what you would expect from say Sky Sports.

I thought it maybe due to my older TV and frame rates but now baffled.

BenMcr 02-12-2021 11:29

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Was that through your Smart TV apps or via the Virgin TV box. If Virgin do you have V6/TiVo or 360?

spankysmagicpian 02-12-2021 12:57

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36103905)
Was that through your Smart TV apps or via the Virgin TV box. If Virgin do you have V6/TiVo or 360?

Tried it through the V6 and FireTV Cube, both the same. It was just strange. Maybe Amazon are at fault...even though it's not a fault. I'll check tonight.

jfman 02-12-2021 14:00

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36103665)
A bit of your bias coming out here, jfman.

It’s not really bias, OB. It stands to reason.

Virgin, Sky and others rely upon having a large number of subscribers and using that purchasing power, plus their reach of advertisers, to drive down the price of third party content to pennies per subscriber per month.

Fledgling streamers on the other hand believe that retailing directly to customers they can gain more revenue. The theory being that say, 250 000 subscribers per month at £8 a month would get more revenue than the scenario above. £24m per year. That, leaving advertising aside, would be about 17 pence per subscriber taking a basic Sky/Virgin package.

All these figures are scalable but the idea that huge amounts are being saved or streaming services will (as a matter of course) be integrated into aggregated packages is fanciful.

1andrew1 02-12-2021 14:14

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36103962)
It’s not really bias, OB. It stands to reason.

Virgin, Sky and others rely upon having a large number of subscribers and using that purchasing power, plus their reach of advertisers, to drive down the price of third party content to pennies per subscriber per month.

Fledgling streamers on the other hand believe that retailing directly to customers they can gain more revenue. The theory being that say, 250 000 subscribers per month at £8 a month would get more revenue than the scenario above. £24m per year. That, leaving advertising aside, would be about 17 pence per subscriber taking a basic Sky/Virgin package.

All these figures are scalable but the idea that huge amounts are being saved or streaming services will (as a matter of course) be integrated into aggregated packages is fanciful.

Agreed. It's fanciful to kid ourselves that we save money by purchasing a wide range of streaming services as we don't have the same buying power as VMO2.


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