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Now TV don't seem to publicise that information in advance, you just have to keep checking. However, I think it is likely that the whole series, including series 7 this time, will appear when the current run of repeats on Sky Atlantic comes to an end.

They are currently showing three episodes a week on Fridays, and so far they've got to the end of series 3, with episodes 1-3 of series 4 scheduled for this coming Friday (6 April). So it'll be a few weeks yet before they get to the very end. You might want to keep your eye on this for the scheduled showing of series 7 on Sky Atlantic if you can bear putting up with the ads, although if I were you, I'd wait until it was put on demand, which would probably be only a couple or so weeks later if my take on this is correct.

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A poster on the NowTV forums updates a thread with all the content at the start of every month if it's of help. :-)
Here--> https://community.nowtv.com/t5/Enter.../300513/page/4

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Thanks.:tu:

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Or this one that updates daily to what's new and what's going.


https://community.nowtv.com/t5/Enter.../463056#M38062


Subscribe and it comes daily to your inbox.

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Mad Men Season 7, part two, now on Netflix.

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Am I missing a setting or something or does search on the V6 box not include results from HayU?

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Not currently from what l know.

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Thanks Den, I was sure I must have missed a setting somewhere. Seems like such an obvious thing to integrate it in to search like Netflix. I'm sure it would increase discoverability and watch time for HayU content! :confused:

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Amazon prime will show the US Open for the next 5 years starting this August after snapping up the rights from Eurosport

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Let's hope it comes to VM soon, then!

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Hope springs eternal OB.;)

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Indeed. Gother is reporting on Digital Spy that Amazon and VM are likely to agree a deal this year on having Amazon Prime on the V6. Unfortunately, it will be Prime only, so bang go the additional Amazon channels, but we suspected that would be the case.

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l would take that with a pinch of salt OB.

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Like Virgin or Amazon would let some random person know on an internet forum what there future plans were.:D

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Indeed MM but obviously on some forums some members must be planning to be the next Nostradamus with their spot on predictions.;).

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He's got access to some inside information, so it may be credible. Let's wait and see. He has provided some good information in the past.

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Say enough things on internet forums and inevitably one or two will happen.

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Say nothing and there's no need for a thread.

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Human nature is against that..:)

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Still doesn't make it inside information more pot luck.:D

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Its like politicians as if they say enough rubbish some will inevitably believe it.:D

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I would imagine that if you have a contact or two in the right places, you may get some good information about what may be happening.

However, like Brexit, nothing is agreed until everything is agreed, and until contracts are signed, there is always the chance that the deal will fall through. That's what happened with the original Amazon/VM negotiations. It doesn't make the original information wrong though, if it was the intention to do a deal.

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Being rumoured that British boxing promoter Eddie Hearn has agreed a deal with either Netflix or Amazon Prime, in the States, for his UK fight cards to be streamed live on their platform. Around 20 shows per year. News imminent apparently.

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I do not quite understand what you expecting from us, Den.

We are trying to establish what may be coming to the VM platform when there is damn all public information. You slam us when we try to indicate the way things are going, but you know as well as anyone that until it is officially announced (normally within a few days before or after launch) nothing is confirmed.

Despite the speculation about the BT Sport channels, we did not know for sure they were coming until the actual launch. Remember that? But I and others were very positive at the time that they were coming.

Sometimes, we get things a bit wrong. I admit upfront my most publicised mistake about Sky Atlantic, for example. But there were good indications at the time that it really was coming, and I did get it right about BT Sport, remember.

Unfortunately, it is true that you tend to remembered for your mistakes than your successes.

But when information is being volunteered for no monetary reward, please give us a little bit of leeway. Not all of us are trolling - we just want you to share with the information we are getting and the sense we are making of it.

You and some others continue to be very critical about my posts about the demise of linear TV. But if you go back to my first thread on this a few years ago, some of the comments made by my detractors are now quite laughable. Read it again now, and you will see what I mean.

Please believe me when I say that my posts are legitimate and I just want genuine insight and genuine debate on what may be coming to Virgin Media screens.

If you prefer to read VM press releases to see what is happening, good luck with that.

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So, where do you get your information about what's coming to VM, then, MM?

Media Boy is pretty good, but he seems to be keeping all his information to himself!

Maybe you should get yourself a job with Media Boy HQ. I understand they have a magnificant multi-storey air conditioned building! :D

Sorry, that was not be taken as a good employment opportunity...:rofl:

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Well if this comes to fruition it would be a huge step for it to be Netflix as Amazon has been going after some sports rights.

If it's true and it isn't Amazon my gob will be smacked.

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Amazon has done a deal to secure NFL football rights for Thursday Night Football, to be distributed globally on Prime.

https://advanced-television.com/2018...g-partnership/

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Just a renewal of the previous Thursday night contract OB.

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Shame the games are on at 1.30am!

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There not usually the best games Thursday night. I Record them now, but used to watch every game shown on sky live.
The reason there on so late is NFL like the game to be shown in prime time in the US. They believe Thursday night is the best night of the week for TV as "Every one is out on Friday and Saturday evening"

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A friend has a six month Now TV Entertainment pass and a six month Sky Cinema pass. I said i'd ask in here how much he could expect to sell them for on eBay. Anyone know?

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Your friend won't be able to sell them there anymore. Sky started reporting listings of the passes and Ebay removes them all now.

It's a shame as i used to pick up 2 month passes for ~£3 there every so often but now it's just full of much more expensive listings of NowTV Boxes/sticks with the passes.

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Ahh okay, thanks.

How about Amazon, do Sky monitor that?

Can I ask where people in this thread buy their cheap passes from?

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Perhaps he could sell a poem he's written for x pounds and send it over the internet with a free Now TV pass! Would be like the days when shops could sell fruit but not furniture on a Sunday, so the furniture shops would sell an orange for £499 and throw in a 3 piece suite for free :D

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Project Kangaroo to be resurrected?

https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...netflix-amazon

Not sure i'd be willing to pay for another streaming service unless the licence fee was abolished.
They're annoyed it was blocked originally, don't blame them considering the offerings available now.

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I think it's a sensible idea. Could be a version with advertising or a premium version without. May have more appeal overseas where they don't have our PSBs, catch-up services and UKTV.

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Good lateral thinking but I suspect the Amazon bot would find it before e potential buyer does!

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This is definitely the way to go. This has the potential to help our terrestrials to remain viable in the longer term.

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But at what cost ? We get it all included with the license now.

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OB's bill will be running into a couple of hundred pounds the amount of streaming services he wants to subscribe to..

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I am sure there would be a 'free with commercials' option available.

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And how many are going to pay for the no commerci option when it's all available to record on linear.

The BBC don't have commercials

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Not at all, Den. The streaming services seem to be a lot cheaper than pay channels and have better content.

I am not sure at this stage how the costs would work out for sports fans, though. Eleven Sports seems to be a bit pricey to me. We really need players like Amazon to come on the scene - this is what I have been waiting for.

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Not sure how much Eleven Sports is - perhaps you could enlighten me?

Fox are offering streaming of every NRL game at over £20pm - way too high in my opinion, especially when 2 or 3 games are live on Sky each week.

If that is a typical price for streaming it will not take off imho

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TV without commercials appeals to many. Even having to fast forward them is a nuisance I could do without.

Don't forget that we are in the beginning of a transitional period. The BBC is working on the assumption that when the next licence fee is reviewed, the current method of broadcasting channels will be phasing out and all their content will be streamed/on demand. At that point, the licence fee is likely to be scrapped in favour of a subscription and so all the participating channels on the Kangaroo type service will get a cut of the subscription fee.

The one concern I have is that we will be reliant on the broadcasters to determine the length of time that content will be displayed. I rather like the flexibility to view it at my leisure, up to about 18 months ahead. If they place the same kind of timelines as Now TV do, this will make juggling our viewing rather more difficult.

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Actually, it's not as bad as I thought, sorry. A subscription to Eleven Sports costs about a tenner per month in Belgium, but they get three sport channels for that.

However, it's still costing people more than before as Sky doesn't seem to be reducing their prices to reflect the loss of choice.

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SKY won't do that. They'll just highlight that whilst they've lost La Liga they'll be showing more live football than ever before thanks to the UEFA Nations League and improved coverage of the English Football League from next year. They'll also play on the fact SKY customers can tailor their SKY Sports package. They know how to massage these things

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Looks like it's going to be DAZN. Never heard of them myself but being described as the Netflix of sport.

https://www.ringtv.com/535311-eddie-...tnership-dazn/

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Totally agree


I can't be bothered to check out all the new shows eack week, so probably miss some good dramas across the terestial networks. Netflix has made weakly episodes, thing of the past for me, so having full seasons/series, add-free, available later could be an attractive proposition, depending on price.


It will be interesting to see what the 'new kangaroo' offers

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Interesting to see how DAZN develops. It looks quite credible. Interesting article here. https://inews.co.uk/sport/dazn-sets-...netflix-sport/

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Like

1. the no frills no pundits type of coverage (only watch team lists and actual games)
2. No ads
3. Estimated cost of 9.99 euros

Dislike

1. Watching on laptop, tablet or mobile - don't have a 49" TV to watch on something where the ball will look like a golf ball
2. Not currently available in UK

Overall impression, worth keeping an eye out for - but a long way from a desirable service

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According to the DAZN website you can also watch it on "Smart TVs, Apple TV, Amazon Fire TV and Sticks, Air Stick 4K, Chromecast and more"

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Website here https://watch.dazn.com/en-US/sports/
Important to note that it does not mention anything about entering the UK market. The deal with Eddie Hearn is for the USA.

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DAZN is currently only available in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Canada and Japan.

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Very interesting, and the first real sign that ultimately, the price of football on TV will fall with time.

People have been finding it difficult to believe how any company could move in, pay for the PL rights and provide a cheaper service than Sky. I have given some examples but these did no include the 'no frills without the pundits' idea, which would save a lot of money by itself.

The game needs disrupters like this for the benefit of the viewers.

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Can't argue with you. I know people have brought up the cost of broadcasting Premiership football as a reason why it wouldn't be cost effective for the likes of Amazon to bid for the rights but the DAZN model could work. The Premier League broadcast each game globally. Amazon could just use the international feed rather than sending their own camera's to the games. I'm sure the Premier Leagues International feed also includes English commentary so Amazon wouldn't need a dedicated commentary team either.

I wonder how much SKY and BT fork out per game on camera crews, production staff, commentators, presenters and pundits?

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The problem for DAZN is going forward they wouldn't just be taking on the scale of Sky they'd be taking on either Comcast or Disney who's global scale makes it extremely difficult sure Amazon could but these small players have no chance in my opinion.

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It looks like Ofcom may have been won over, rather belatedly, with the Kangaroo Project idea.

It's a shame that Ofcom's lack of vision has put back the progress on this that was being made before they scuppered their plans. Their action could have seen the early demise of the commercial terrestrials. Let's hope they have recognised their gross error in time to prevent this from happening.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...of-kangaroo-2/

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The DAZN idea sounds like a great idea.Start broadcasting 10 mins before the start.first half,half time talk over,second half then finish.Does anybody on here actually enjoy the highly paid talking heads stating the bleeding obvious to anyone with a smidgeon of football nous.

Don't get me started on all the junkets abroad,the upcoming world cup for example,how much is that costing to send uncle tom cobley and all to russia? when, they could easily use a feed from the countries broadcaster and sit in a studio in London and say the same things.Do they think it matters a jot to us that the talking heads are in a studio in the host country talking repetitive bull.

Not to me it doesn't.It's just a retired players money grab(as if gerrard,souness,lampard, etc need the money).

Rant over.

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Deal announced. $1 billion deal to assemble the biggest and best stable of boxers ever seen! DAZN have gone in big here.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...seen-striking/

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Watched the first episode of the new Netflix series called Safe, tonight, pretty good start to it.

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Does anyone know when the UK is likely to finally get access to YouTube Red ?

They have started adding quite a few originals however it seems you can only watch the first so many episodes free here which is annoying as a Google Play music subscriber.

https://www.youtube.com/yt/originals/

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No firm date yet, but a launch in the UK is expected later this year.

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Apparently, DAZN is now Britain's largest tech company by value overtaking Deliveroo. Perform recently sold a 10% stake in DAZN to Japanese company Dentsu for £300m valuing DAZN at £3bn.
It said the PPV model for boxing was not working in the US as TV companies have pushed up prices in response to declining viewings which has resulted in even more declining viewings.

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Ok - didn't mention that in the linked article.

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I wonder what the implications are for Netflix subscribers if Microsoft acquire the company?

Although they will bring additional resources into the company, I worry that there could be a change of direction, with less money going into original productions.

https://www.rapidtvnews.com/20180513...#axzz5FNC27PmG

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Maybe there is some truth in the rumour that Amazon will be appearing on V6s soon. It was revealed today that Amazon will be launching on BT next year.

So by 2019, BT will be able to offer Amazon, Netflix and Now TV. That is certainly the direction to go.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2018...vergence-plan/

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I agree it's the right direction but BT seriously need to review their pricing structure. Their cheapest broadband, phone and TV package is £47.99. This includes a recordable Youview box but only Freeview channels and no BT Sport! You'd be nearly £70 per month if adding Netflix, Now TV and Amazon. Definitely not a viable alternative for me.

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This news seems to back up my thoughts that streaming is not coming cheap.

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I think you are mixing the streaming costs with BT costs. Netflix, Amazon and Now TV on their own compare well against pay tv packages on Sky, VM and BT. The main digital Sky channels and on demand offerings are on Now TV.

It's only when you add the pay TV packages on top of the streaming services that it gets more expensive.

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True, but it should not be forgotten that Sky Sports is coming to BT next year, and the Sky entertainment channels will be available via Now TV.

That's a big improvement in viewer choice coming soon for BT subscribers.

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Streaming costs may be similar or evenslightly less than pay TV packages, but most people are going to want them in addiction to the pay TV packages not instead of them (at least for the foreseeable future).

Streaming costs need to be a lot lower to entice people to subscribe.

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It's a massive improvement in viewer choice. BT are already stating they will provide more content than any other TV service. Having Amc, SKY Atlantic, Netflix and Amazon all in the one place will be a big selling point if priced cottectly.

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That is the million dollar question - will pricing be realistic or totally over the top.

My view, based on actual streaming subs that I have seen, is it will cost too much on top of current pay TV subs so will be a choice not an addition.

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Yes' I'm doing both myself. However, there will be a cross over at some point. Once you can access all the channels you want through the streaming services, most people will end up ditching their pay tv channels as streaming will be the cheaper option.

I don't think there is much chance of the price of the streaming services coming down, to be honest. I mean, what good value Netflix is with all that content on there.

It is the cable and satellite packages that need to come down, which I think would be possible if they killed off the channels that constantly seem to carry repeats of dross.

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Bang on, OB.

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No proof of that so far OB.

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Well, there's no proof until it happens, ol' bean!:D

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Clear Proof seems to be in very short supply generally of late OB.;)

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How can you have clear proof of the future, Den?

Just askin'.....:D

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No one can accurately predict the future but thus so far your predictions have generally sailed well off course.

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I don't think so, Den, given that my predictions for the future are still based on 15-20 years' time, and recently the BBC have announced that they are preparing for just that.

There's only one notable mistake I am aware that I made, a few years ago, so I'm not sure to what you are referring. :tired:

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Just to clarify ... is the notable mistake you’re admitting, the one where you predicted (3 years ago) the end of linear broadcast TV within 10 years, or the one where you claimed that it’s possible to provide sports coverage “live on demand”? :dunce:

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I think they should ditch the +1's, move toward a smaller selection of HD/4K live programming for sports and events and keep the rest as programme portfolios / box sets organized by rights holder (e.g. Amazon / Netflix / BBC etc) and searchable from the main interface.

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You are being pedantic, Chris. Most people outside this forum don't have a clue what the difference is between streaming and on demand. As far as public perception is concerned, they are one and the same thing.

I kind of apologise for any confusion I might have created, but I was not addressing the technophobes!

No, I was referring to my assertion that Sky Atlantic was coming to VM. It was true, but not in the timeframe I expected. Sky Atlantic should indeed appear on VM screens either this year or early next.

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This isn't the Brexit thread, Old Boy, but I appreciate your honesty. :D

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Why?

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Oh dear; 'Bilderberg Boy' is back!:zzz:

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Surely record ability and on-demand means +1 channels are redundant?

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Brexit means Brexit, Andrew. Some facts are just undeniable. :D

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This is the reasoning. Also, most content could be viewed on demand, except for live events.

I´d keep news channels, sports and events as live TV and use the rest of the bandwidth for broadband.

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You would have thought so, Raider. I only found +1 channels useful when all my tuners were allocated and I needed to record a fourth programme.

That is no longer necessary with the V6.

Amazingly, there are still those who channel hop to find programmes, which I have found an inefficient and frustrating experience whenever I tried it some years back.

With so many tuners and with on demand and streaming services in abundance, I do believe that +1 channels have served their purpose - they've had their day.

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Not in my opinion OB.:)

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I guess there are people out there that would want to record 6 channels and watch catchup on a 7th, but really, how often would that happen in practice? Bandwidth on cable for broadcast is at a premium. I think +1s, while originally a nice concept, are now just a waste of space.

Given the option, an individual subscriber could theoretically choose channels that they want to ¨+1-ify¨ by using some of their free tuners to fill a temporary area of their box with 1 hour old content. Then you could even choose to make a particular channel a +2 if you wanted.

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How do you find them useful, Den? They are not even in HD. I rarely watch anything in SD these days.

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If you have two linked V6s, that's not a problem!

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There are useful because l use them as l do a lot of recordings to watch in the coming days.

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....And by the way, Chris, my prediction was for 20, not 10 years ahead.

You may be interested in this:

https://www.tvbeurope.com/content/ro...l-broadcasters

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I thought you had a V6, sorry!

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l have OB..

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So you are trying to record 6 programmes at the same time? I'd be interested to know what they are!!

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I wondered seeing as we are quite happy with a non-recording VboxHD and rarely find any collisions.

Or maybe we're just a bit more picky?

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I think perhaps you are missing a lot!

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Quite a few l series on different channels , football , horse racing , movies.

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Fair enough, although in your shoes I'd be inclined to watch sport live and bookmark the movies.

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No, they remain quite popular.
http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/w...-summary/?_s=4