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It's because it is covered by Edinburgh on that list.

I would take that with a pinch of salt though as all dates are subject to change.

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Post what exactly? Random postings about headends?

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Either way It was still all happen before the change freeze.

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Not 100% it won't. If something went wrong with the pilot then it could get held back if there wasn't enough time to correct it before the freeze.

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Nothing has went wrong with the pilot.

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I didn't say there had. I stated that IF something went wrong then the full rollout MAY be delayed.

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It will come when it comes , VM are working hard to improve the whole TIVO experience for its users , why not leave them to it instead of asking questions they wouldn't be able to reveal. The facts we know 15.2 is arriving soon , multiroom viewing at some point , red button , spotify , and TIVO app let's just leave it at that.

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That is the most sensible thing that you have said on here for a long time MM:p:

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And you know this how?

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He knows everything? Or did you not know that:D

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If you look at the Virgin Media Tivo pilot update forum. You will see there is no major problems.

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I have seen posts on there where the Mods have sent PM's to the poster, So why do they not reply to them on the forum if nothing is wrong (or is that just me):confused:

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Since he doesn’t have 15.2, then that is a reasonable question.

In fact something did break in 15.2. Those of us with 15.2 continue to have no EPG programme information in respect of PBS. Not a major problem but I would imagine that they would wish to correct this prior to a full roll out. Last week SP indicated that it would be resolved sometime this week.

--John

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The master has spoken.:clap:

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Well said!

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As always well said

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I have try to found out what been added by playing about with my box (Like going info all of on demand.) And I still did not find any thing new.

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No new channels confrim but ITV2, ITV3 and ITV4 HD channels and BoxNation are rumour to be set to launch on Virgin this month.

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Thought so.. been away for a short while, wanted to come back to find out "what's coming soon to VM" and yet again I have to scroll through pages of mince, which to be blunt is a massive insult to Media Boy and his work. To all of you not discussing the topic, please go elsewhere!

I'm just about to work out now how to ignore some of the plonkers on this thread...

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Yes it is the same as me, As I have tried to find out but it has left me baffled :confused:

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Love turns to hate as BSkyB closes Sky Living Loves in January.

Broadcast now is reporting that BSkyB will close Sky Living Loves on January 24th 2012.

Sky Living Loves is broadcasting on Virgin Channel 159 right now.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...5&postcount=63

Info from DS Forum.

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I do love the fact Sky bought the VM channels and then pretty much got rid of the majority of them. Idiots.

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An Sky viewer thinks Sky may axe their SD Channels next year (If they broadcast in HD).

They think the following channels may close.
-Sky1
-Sky Arts 1
-Sky Arts 2
-Sky Living

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...3&postcount=16

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The SD versions of those channels are only downscaled from the HD channels anyway as far as I'm aware so there isn't anything to axe. Even if they removed the SD listing all HD boxes can output an HD channel via Scart anyway (again as far as I'm aware)

But can't see it happening anyway, HD hasn't progressed that far into their own customer base to warrant it

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That makes sense, and C5+1 is not the most crucial channel out there.. but this does rather beg the question of what happens with any new channel launching from an existing provider, mid-contract?

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It's the usual Sky tactic of exterminating competition by any means.

First the closure of the SD launch queue (which many believe is no longer justified) and now this. If this is true, it may be a repeat of the changeover from analogue to digital process that Sky deployed ie small changes to steer customers in the "right" direction, followed by a more aggressive incentive to change.

I didn't know that Ben, I thought that many Sky customers would be on HD now as only HD boxes have been available for some time.

With the reduced costs in relation to ceasing SD transmissions, it may be cost effective for them to offer free/subsidised HD boxes to push people onto HD.

If this action were to proceed, I wonder if VM would follow suit as it may be that their fees to Sky decrease without the SD version. They may, however, decide to still offer SD, if there are no contractual restraints, by downscaling the HD version (or is this how they do it anyway?)

Yes, it does seem to be the case with VM that they don't like renegotiating contracts mid term. I wonder why this is so? This happens in wider business all the time. I think there must be a standard channel "swap over" clause, as many times new channels are only available at the expense of removing another one. To have extra channels/s from an existing provider would presumably mean a change in the amount of money paid/received by VM, apart from any no cost to either party arrangements.

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why did virgin agree to sell their tv channel in the way they did it

all we have got is about 10 hd channels (very good ones), on the other hand vm should have been more demanding

like getting, sky news hd, sky sports news hd, sky sports hd3 and 4, sky atlantic, sky atlantic hd, sky 3d etc

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Virgin also got Sky Anytime from Sky for that deal. The other channels weren't broadcasting at the time of the deal. Sky sports 1 & 2 HD channels are part of the Ofcom investigation.

Sky aren't going to give VM Sky3D any time soon!

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i bet sky has puchased boxnation (to stop virgin from getting it) and have renamed it sky boxnation

mabe they put sky boxnation on sky living loves epc slot and put sky boxnation hd of the boxnation epg slot

:D

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As it currently stands Sky have nothing to do with Boxnation as this is a seperate entity set up by Frank Warren and associates.

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i was joking!

or was i?

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From their own results:

As of September 2011
Total TV customers 10,213,000
Total HD customers 3,925,000

Sky only install HD capable boxes now, but not all of them will be HD activated due to the extra monthly cost

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That's a lot less than I imagined.

With the switch from analogue to satellite they first used the carrot (subsidised equipment with more channels for the same price as analogue) and then the stick (gradually removing analogue channels.)

It may be that they are now using the stick first (the removal of SD channels.) The carrot may be the removal of the HD charge (just for non premium channels to start with for to those who take the highest pack??) to encourage more customers to migrate. This would also negate the competitive edge that VM have over them by offering free HD.

I think it likely that more SD closures will follow.

Does anybody know if the SD channel closures already announced will affect VM?

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what will replace sky living loves?

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All will happen will be that Sky Living Loves will close on Virgin Channel 159.

That all we know that time of posting.

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BSkyB are moving Sky Arts channels up on the Sky EPG.

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If a channel stops broadcasting completely then yes it will affect VM

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Not everyone on VM has a HD capable box or a HD TV to enjoy it with. So, many VM customers would still either require a HD box that seemlessly downscales to SD or for VM to downscale the HD feeds from BSkyB before retransmission to SD boxes. That sounds like a lot of capital outlay for VM.

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I see you have a Norman Collier keyboard there Alan. ;)

I don't see how you can suggest that the BBC be allowed to set the amount the public is charged for the TV licence. The BBC can put forward a business plan and a request for funding but should in no way set the licence fee themselves. In recent years some of the licence revenue has been used for DSO and some is to be used in the future for broadband rollout. As a public service broadcaster, Channel 4 and its regional variants also receive funding either directly or indirectly (via BBC subsidies) from the licence fee. So the BBC are not the only ones who are supported by what is, for legal purposes, public taxation and, even if they were, they should not be deciding the amount.

Don't forget that the BBC has other revenue streams through its Worldwide (formerly Enterprises) and other business interests. Given that they do not rely on commercial advertising, the BBC should be far less affected by the economic downturn than other broadcasters. Personally, I feel thet they should be able to make any necessary savings without degrading the quality of the service and without an increase to their licence fee subsidy.

New costs have been introduced in recent years such as upgrading to HD recording and transmission of programmes but technology has also made for great savings with, for example, the vast libraries of programming now being held digitally on disk rather than on video tape and film leading to savings in storage costs and instant access to the archives.

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they can't do much in terms of its worldwide division, apart from selling the rights to doctor who, top gear, remainig sports rights eic

they cannot make saving without degrading the quality of service, they have been doing the for the past few years already

if sky can set their subscription fees then the bbc (or bbc trust) should set the liesence fee

otherwise there will be nothing but rubbish on tv, itv has gone to the dogs since the 1990s, don't let it happen to the bbc.

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If the BBC set the licence fee and I was the BBC - I'd charge you £29.99 per month - would you pay?

If you chose not to pay you wouldf be breaking the law - even if you only watch other channels that you paid a fee for.

The licence fee goes to the BBC - but the licence is to view all channel - not just the BBC.

With Sky to choose to pay - with the BBC you have to pay.

If you have to pay then a limit has to be set by somebody.

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Please explain how? They've launched iPlayer and two HD channels, what have they took away to make the service 'degraded'?

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or pay the BBC via Virgin Media £12.99 per month to watch all the BBC Channels (My phone says we pay the BBC £12.12.5 per month right now).

Or I love to see the BBC having an night on BBC One every year called ''BBC in Need''. :)

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The way things are going we may see it soon:erm:

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yes i would pay!

got any better ideas for the bbc to be well funded

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they have lost many sports, film ,foregin tv rights and they are laggding behind in terms of hd channels (compaired to sky, itv and channel 4)

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Just because Sky, ITV and Channel 4 have more HD channels doesn't mean the BBC are lagging behind

All of the ITV HD channels, both C4 HD and E4 HD as well and the Sky HD channels (excluding the Movies) are all simulcast channels which means most of their content probably isn't HD

I'd much prefer fewer HD channels with more HD content on them rather than more with less

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bbc 1 hd and bbc hd (also bbc 2 hd) are simulcast channels anyway like the c4, itv, and sky hd channels

and anyway, even if the prpgramme is not hd it will still look better

so they are lagging behind in terms of hd channels

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I would argue Sky One HD shows more HD content a day than BBC One HD.

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Because Channel 4 and ITV can afford to run more HD channels because they're behind a paywall, BBC must make them available to every platform for free and pay for them to broadcast there.

Sky own the satellite and have more money than jesus so they're not particularly comparable.

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Seeing as a lot of the pressure the BBC was coming under we being spued by James Murdock I think the heat is off them a bit going forward what with it coming to light that James Murdock is a ******* and all.

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The Independent give him a slating also
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/me...d-6259953.html

Curtains for him at BSKYB in my opinion.

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That's actually quite a good idea. It might allow the BBC to save on some administrative costs (pay TV operators will need subscriber management services anyway), help some customers to budget and stop some TV license fee evasion (especially since the decision to scrap the requirement of TV retailers to inform TVL whenever a TV is purchased.)

This could be applied to all pay TV operators. Incidentally, VM have the power to disconnect TV customers who are found not to be in possession of a valid TVL. Ironically, VM are not allowed to encrypt the BBC channels, so they would have to ensure that the box was physically removed!

I thought that Channel 4 HD was now available FTA :confused:

Sky don't own the satellites that they use, they are actually owned by SES who lease transponders to, amongst other people, Sky. http://www.ses.com/4232583/en

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Channel 4 to give More4 an new look in January 2012.

More 4, Channel 4's successful digital channel is evolving. From January 2012 a channel re-brand will mark the introduction of an even clearer programming proposition with the schedule focusing more fully on popular factual and features - life enhancing content, helping viewers to get the most out of their everyday lives.

http://www.channel4.com/info/press/n...e4-is-evolving

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I meant ITV2, ITV3, E4, etc.

And I never knew that so I've learnt something today.

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I think we are forgetting that the licence money also goes toward they BBC's radio service which is excellent. Especially radio 5 for the sport which is offers a nice alternative to listen to some sport which we don't have to pay for.

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Well said:)

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To be honest I don't listen to BBC radio nor do I watch BBC1 or BBC2 so I would love to see the fee scrapped , however I respect other peoples differing views.

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I would have to agree with you, for the same reasons.

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I think the BBC should advertise as they advertise there own shows, so why not advertise companies, I think it is totally unfair when they give out so many repeats and crap shows, they charge us the earth in Licence fee's to pay over rated stars lots of money.

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You pay a license fee to legally watch broadcast TV in the UK, the proceeds just happen to go to the BBC.

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We love watching the BBC channels because there are no ads trying to sell you stuff you don't need

Also the BBC produces all those niche programmes that wouldn't get made on commercial channels

The license fee is worth every penny

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In your eyes it is not mine , the licence fee will always be a contentious subject. The deciding factor will always be how much you use the BBC services. I'm not saying im right and your wrong its personal preference.

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so why can't the bbc have more money that jesus by controlling the lisence fee

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unlikely, as long as news corp owns 40% of the company

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so you want the x factor and more of the many crap itv shows on bbc then?

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Actually, a small proportion of my watching is BBC, but I still think it should be well funded as a Public service broadcaster making quality programmes covering all tastes. In fact, it annoys me when they forget the PSB bit, and pitch prime time shows against ITV to try to win a ratings war.

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i think that another reason why sky atlantic is taking so long is that virgin also would want the right to those programmes for their video on demand service (like PBS UK for example)

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Indeed for those that cannt afford sky sports, radio five live cover the England cicket team abroad including ashes tours live,as well as various other sports excellent value imo.:)

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I think it could be very much that sky still want to keep it pretty much exclusive so are probably still overpricing it,rather then anything to do with VOD rights,i doubt the discussions have not even reached any talks on VOD(or even VM getting it at all) .;)

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if we do get (if...) sky atlantic thhen we better get the hd channel and the shows on virgin video on demand

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Does anyone know Niell Berketts email address, l am fuming by the service that VM are giving my mother in law who is 78 years old.

Hi it's Neil.berkett@virginmedia.co.uk 01256 754554 got number direct from email. Hope you get issue sorted

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What is the problem, Arthur?

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Many thanks for that, the problem with VM just goes to prove, they get things wrong big time, once it is sorted out l will let you know what the problem is - l like to give them benefit of the doubt, l do have some good points, apart from whinging.

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Over on Digital Spy, someone has recently said that all boxes are now being supplied with the HD activated, so those that don't pay the £10.25 will get BBC1 HD etc. How reliable the info. is though, I don't know.

Incidentally, AIUI, Freesat use a FTA version of C4 HD, but Sky use an encrypted version, so, if the above is correct, Sky customers would not be able to receive it. I guess they could faff about and add the FTA version to add channels.

Also, has anybody else noticed that VM seem to have fixed the bug where the programme info. box on the EPG came up blank and you had to cancel it and then press it again to get the synopsis?

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Yes, it was fixed by the recent software update.

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Am I being cynical thinking that within the next few weeks Sky will announce the launch of Sky Atlantic Living, which is not currently part of any deal negotiated between Sky & Virgin and as such will be a Sky Exclusive channel....I was proved wrong about PBS (It was nice to be proved wrong on that occasion!) so fingers crossed we don't get short changed AGAIN in this continual Sky / Virgin war.

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Explain to me how VM are being short changed by Sky over Atlantic ? I personally feel VM Sky sports subscribers get short changed by not receiving HD3 and HD4 however Atlantic as never been part of any VM TV package. Sky are a business and as they own Atlantic its upto them what they do with Atlantic. They're not a charity.

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Yes Sky Atlantic has never been part of any deal and its up to the 2 companies involved to come to a sensible carriage agreement that suits both sides but on the point of HD3 and HD4 yes we should have them and lets hope Ofcom can force them to do that sooner rather then later.

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In there any chance in the near future of OFCOM ever forcing SKY to show all their sports channels in HD on VM?

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Hopefully , however truthfully I don't know.

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Only after extensive consultation would be my guess!!!!! the last OFCOM pay tv review lasted if my memory serves me correctly around three years and resulted in sky sports 1/2 HD on VM,and BT and Top Up TV getting access to sky sports SD 1/2,I would not hold your breath,its a long way away,unless SKY/VM come to an agreement on 3/4 HD,which is about as likely as King Canutes turning back the tide escapade imo.;)

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In Short VM had the rights to rebroadcast all of the ex virgin and Sky channels, Sky then removed some channels, but replaced them with others "outside" of this carriage agreement. Whilst completely legal and not breaking any rules, it was a little underhand IMHO. Maybe its just me...

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Totally agree with you its well underhanded....sky are [Deleted].:)

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I'm all for the free market, but there has to be measures in place to prevent a dominant pay TV provider exterminating any sign of healthy competition.

I have been in business for many years and Sky take things to a whole new level in sly underhand practices.

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While I can see your point I'm afraid their now Sky's channels to do as they see fit whether we agree or not. Just out of interest how many have they actually closed Virgin1 , Bravo and the Sky Living Love spring to mind.

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What about Sky Anytime , Sky Arts HD1 and 2 , Sky Classics HD , Sky Sports Red Button , I would say they more than compensate for the channels lost. Don't forget Skys own customers have also lost them.

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Firstly I make it six channels closed, Channel1, Channel1+1, Bravo, Bravo+1, Challenge Jackpot and Living Loves.... Secondly we don't disagree, Sky do have the right to do what they wish with their channels, I just feel it has been done in a underhand way. Wasn't the Sky Anytime, Arts HD and red button deals done before Sky decided to close the channels it had just bought? if so it was hardly compensation....

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http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2010/...ter-vmtv-sale/
http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/S...ution-1a1.aspx

Most of the content was moved to other channels.

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Such as (in the case of Star Trek...) Sky Atlantic.....

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I suppose we'll all have differing opinions , I personally never watched much of the channels binned. Im not a fan of many of Sky's practices especially withholding HD3 and HD4 to customers who pay full whack for the Sky Sports portfolio of channels nor do I like their stranglehold on movies however credit where credits due their products are generally pretty good. Sky keeping Atlantic exclusive is very reminiscent of when VM had Living HD as a platform exclusive , but hey thats how business is done these days with each company trying to have the upper hand.

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What?? With James Murdoch at the helm??? Surely some mistake???

I dont think your a winger I have had many complaints about virhin over the years

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:D :D :D

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While I agree with your assertion I'm afraid most large companies behave in this way not that I'm condoning it of course , as an example just look at accusations re Anti competitive practices at the big worldwide tech companies. Any company with a great product will go to lengths to protect it , I'm afraid sometimes this can be seen as sly by outsiders.

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An Virgin Tester has told me the following over the weekend.

Maybe an new red button steam set to launch?

NOTE: I think ''Hidden'' means it not an TV Channel.

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Any idea if the Investigation Discovery channel will be shown on virginmedia?

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Maybe will launch when Virgin deal with Discovery is up as they have no +1 hour channels left on Virgin Media to ask them to remove so Virgin can launch Investigation Discovery on Virgin Media.

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They have Discovery Channel + 1, they would be foolish to remove from Virgin Media mind you. They also have Discovery Real Time +1 which they should remove to launch something better.

That said why can't they launch DMAX + 1. and + 2? Also Discovery Science + 1?

Doesn't Virgin want Timeshifted channels? DMAX could be moved to M+, +1 to L, and +2 to XL if they launched on Virgin Media, that way everyone gets a slice of the DMAX cake.

Oh well.

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Look like Sky Arts SD plus the rest of Sky Basic will stay on air after January 25th.

http://www.skyarts.co.uk/skyarts/sky...w-home-on-sky/

Info from Sky Arts.co.uk

Sky Arts Channels broadcast on Virgin Media from Channel 281 up to 284.

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Oops I forgot about Discovery +1 and Real Time +1 been on Virgin TV.

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Another conspiracy theory on the forums I see LOL

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=2431

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I did try to read that post this afternoon.:D

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Total fabrication from Flagrag.

"There is some other sports moving across like NASCAR,Indy car along with talks of Stock car/Banger racing."

NASCAR and BRISCA, stock car racing, are exclusive to Premier Sports.

"There is also a strong chance providing the media rights fees are acceptable and that certain conditions are met by host broadcasters that we may see some Polish and Swedish speedway live or delayed coverage."

Again Swedish speedway is exclusive to Premier Sports.

"Now the questions it is planned that at launch this channel would be free but if coverage was to increase and more sports like MX1 GP,BTCC,WRC or British superbikes was to join would you be willing to pay an additional £3-5 per month ?"

WRC is exclusive to ESPN.

"Just after a bit of feedback and feelings towards some possible changes happening to Sky sports speedway coverage."

My cousin races for Newcastle Diamonds, formerly of Edinburgh Monarchs, and has been in Speedway for almost 10 years. I've just sent him a text asking if there are any changes afoot. He has heard nothing. Usual coverage as normal as far as he is concerned.

EDIT

Oh wait, I didn't realise he posted more BS.

"The initial plan is that it would be included at no extra cost for Sky sports customers it does seem among Speedway fans though a few of you would be prepared to pay for it as a stand alone channel so no need for Sky sports subs would £10 a month seem reasonable?"

Sounds terribly like Boxnation to me.

"The reasoning behind this idea is the rights of F1 being purchased and due to the length and timing of these races there is likely to be a number of clashes with Football,Rugby Union,Superleague and Cricket along with variety of other sports mean a very full schedule 2012."

I'm sure 4 SKY Sports channel plus the Red Button facility will help SKY cope.

"With regards to Virgin I would be very surprised if no carriage deal was done with them as the Tivo service is very good."

That seems a great reason to withhold a channel :D

"There's an interesting rumour making the rounds on a Speedway forum"

I read this as; Here's some nonsense I've just came up with.

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Hence why I said another conspiracy theory , NASCAR is shown on Sky Sports also however I do believe Premier Sports have the rights in the UK for Live races.

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Whilst I like a good conspiracy theory, I really like kicking the poop out of one too.

It was a great spot Muppetman, tickled me pink.

The thing is Flagrag is probably a massive motor sports, and has heard a rumour, but has got a little too excited with his posts.

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I'm part of a Sky consumer panel and have never seen any questionnaires asking anything like he states.
http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/foru...&#entry2040642

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. III.
 

True, that's why, for example, there are measures in place to prevent the major supermarkets from operating a cartel. I just wish there was some body with a backbone to keep Sky in line.

Wasn't one of the recent tests on the EPG labelled "Test 43"?

It may well be a monetary issue as opposed to problems with capacity.

I read this as dumbing down Sky Arts to gain more viewers. I always thought that Sky purchased the arts channels to be able refute claims that it was full of popularist pap and/or appeal to the more discerning viewer :confused: