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pip08456 18-09-2019 18:25
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36010565)
I was talking about developing a future “back catalogue” - the value of content today in five, ten, fifteen years.

A streamer is unlikely to develop series with a huge global following like Friends due to reduced reach.
You are assuming the younger generation not embracing streaming as their "go to" entertainment media as well as the current withdrawal of Friends from a current streamer.

Who do you think will be showing the Friends back catalogue in 3yrs time?

jfman 18-09-2019 18:27
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36010568)
You are assuming the younger generation not embracing streaming as their "go to" entertainment media as well as the current withdrawal of Friends from a current streamer.

Who do you think will be showing the Friends back catalogue in 3yrs time?
I’m not talking about Friends as a back catalogue. I’m talking about the new content on streamers now in years to come. None of it will have the reach/value as older content that was mainstream on network channels in the USA.

pip08456 18-09-2019 18:34
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36010573)
I’m not talking about Friends as a back catalogue. I’m talking about the new content on streamers now in years to come. None of it will have the reach/value as older content that was mainstream on network channels in the USA.
Really, mainstream will become streaming content, available at the same time worldwide. The reach will be larger fuelled by social media.

2 things I know won't have a back catalogue. I-Land and Another Life both Netflix Original failures.

oliver1948uk 18-09-2019 18:36
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The reason that people will resent paying for Britbox is that it it seems likely that most of its content is available on free to air channels or on channels in a package with a low subscription or on iPlayer

jfman 18-09-2019 18:39
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36010582)
Really, mainstream will become streaming content, available at the same time worldwide. The reach will be larger fuelled by social media.

2 things I know won't have a back catalogue. I-Land and Another Life both Netflix Original failures.
The technology will become mainstream, the providers will not if (as expected) the market splits into six, eight, ten providers of more with a few hundred thousand to a few million subscribers each in the UK.

The same will apply at a bigger level across Europe/USA.

pip08456 18-09-2019 18:39
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Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 36010584)
The reason that people will resent paying for Britbox is that it it seems likely that most of its content is available on free to air channels or on channels in a package with a low subscription or on iPlayer
Yes in this country.

OLD BOY 18-09-2019 19:32
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36010564)
OK perhaps, I'm just thinking of they future and which streamers people will be using.

I accept being wrong.
We could all be wrong about the future. I would never have dreamed ten years ago that I would have been streaming TV in this way. The whole concept would have eluded me.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36010563)
Its not just my prediction as its the predictions of most of those who are knowledgeable experts in those markets.
Really? Experts like who? I don't think cash-strapped ITV and the BBC would be doing this if they didn't believe it would be a success.

Of course, there will be those in the industry, such as Sky, who will not want it to succeed and will talk it down.

denphone 18-09-2019 19:33
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36010611)
We could all be wrong about the future. I would never have dreamed ten years ago that I would have been streaming TV in this way. The whole concept would have eluded me.
Given how much you espouse streaming as the be all and end all of your viewing its rather strange that you are still a Virgin Media customer.

OLD BOY 18-09-2019 19:38
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Originally Posted by oliver1948uk (Post 36010584)
The reason that people will resent paying for Britbox is that it it seems likely that most of its content is available on free to air channels or on channels in a package with a low subscription or on iPlayer
But there will be much more archive content available on Britbox, from both BBC and ITV. And don't expect those free-to-air channels to be available for much longer, either.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36010573)
I’m not talking about Friends as a back catalogue. I’m talking about the new content on streamers now in years to come. None of it will have the reach/value as older content that was mainstream on network channels in the USA.
Material such as 'Breaking Bad' and 'The Crown' are examples of popular archive material in the future.

jfman 18-09-2019 19:42
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We will see if they stand the test of time in the same way. I'm going to say "no".

OLD BOY 18-09-2019 19:48
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36010614)
Given how much you espouse streaming as the be all and end all of your viewing its rather strange that you are still a Virgin Media customer.
It is not at all strange as I have explained to you before that we are currently in transition, and you cannot watch everything you want by streaming without commercials and until I can do this on one box, I will continue to use both methods. I did switch my Sky Cinema subscription to Now TV for a year, but I found the separate watch lists, lack of sub-titles and low quality HD rather annoying and my wife couldn't cope with it by herself. All this will change, of course, but we are not there yet...

Ultimately, I am looking for VM to offer bundles of streaming services in place of channels. That's the future I look forward to.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36010617)
We will see if they stand the test of time in the same way. I'm going to say "no".
We wouldn't expect anything less from you, jfman. Your response has given me supreme confidence that I must be on to something. :p:

pip08456 18-09-2019 19:54
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If VM are looking to offer streaming bundles one would hope they are negotiating now.

There could be other agregators gearing up. All that's needed is internet.

OLD BOY 18-09-2019 19:56
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36010624)
If VM are looking to offer streaming bundles one would hope they are negotiating now.

There could be other agregators gearing up. All that's needed is internet.
That's right. Virgin are a tad slow, aren't they? Prime was only added this year.

One would hope that they are already talking to Disney about their launch, for example.

denphone 18-09-2019 20:02
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36010620)
It is not at all strange as I have explained to you before that we are currently in transition, and you cannot watch everything you want by streaming without commercials and until I can do this on one box, I will continue to use both methods. I did switch my Sky Cinema subscription to Now TV for a year, but I found the separate watch lists, lack of sub-titles and low quality HD rather annoying and my wife couldn't cope with it by herself. All this will change, of course, but we are not there yet...

Ultimately, I am looking for VM to offer bundles of streaming services in place of channels. That's the future I look forward to.
Like a politician there is a answer for everything... Trouble is one often contradicts another..;)

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36010627)

One would hope that they are already talking to Disney about their launch, for example.
Have you ever thought that Disney might have not talked to them or Sky currently.

pip08456 18-09-2019 20:06
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36010627)
That's right. Virgin are a tad slow, aren't they? Prime was only added this year.

One would hope that they are already talking to Disney about their launch, for example.
If they don't get their finger out they will lose. An agregator with a good search option so people can find what they want from wherever will beat the opposition hands down. (I claim copyright on this idea:D).

Sky Q and Tivo will become outdated.

App on phone, cast to tv etc.


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