Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36216522)

No, because an 'assumption' is just a clever word for a 'guess'.

Remember all the experts making 'assumptions' that the Brexit referendum would be a sure thing . . until it wasn't? ;)

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36216524)

when you assume you make an ass out of u and me.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36216529)

I think the polls said a tie? A few million overseas £ got it over the line in the end though.

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36216544)

are you insinuating we paid the French to vote Leave? ;)

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36218353)

I see now that we have control of our borders Shabana Mahmood is proposing that “community groups” be allowed to identify and sponsor refugees.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36218352)

This seems to be a good moment to make my current position clear on rejoining the EU.

IF: Barnier becomes next French president;

IF: The EU offers us resumption on Thatcher discount terms;

IF: It annoys the Irish government;

THEN: I might be content to rejoin. We can always be difficult if needs be.

I would still have utter contempt for “ever closer union” but a veto will stop that. However, Mrs Seph says you can’t be sure that a future British government wouldn’t go full tonto on a federal Europe. Careful consideration would have to be given on the political lie of the land in the UK.

Btw, I’m in favour of ending devolution in its present form. It’s divisive and overlays cost on the poor people of Scotland and Wales. I’d keep NI as the exception given the likelihood of a future Border Poll for unification of the island. That’ll bring the guns back out. Whether we’re in the EU or not, the EU would stir that pot.

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36218357)

Na. Gary Lineker is first in line to take on the burden.(It's a joke)

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36218352)

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36218360)

TLDR. I have Bregrets. I'm not a pensioner so can see the damage that it caused business. Let's rejoin.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36218364)

The damage was called by the government, who failed to deliver the ‘bonfire of regulations’ and all the necessary measures to make Brexit succeed.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36218365)

Governments, lots of them, pro EU & anti and none of them could do anything with it, suck it up and stop lying to yourself, this is what we voted for and this is as good as it gets

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36218366)

As I said, they were meant to get rid of EU legislation to help rid businesses of the bureaucracy, complexity and other burdens imposed by the bloc. They didn’t do it. Too much like hard work, one presumes.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36218366)

As I said, they were meant to get rid of EU legislation to help rid businesses of the bureaucracy, complexity and other burdens imposed by the bloc. They didn’t do it. Too much like hard work, one presumes.