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Arthurgray50@blu 07-10-2020 21:46

Re: Coronavirus
 
The way the Government is handling everything is scandalous.
Put it this way, if people are abding by sopcial distance. Why have Pubs, and football clubs suffering.

There is no science proof that by closing pubs at a certain time, or even football clubs will prevent the covid spreading.

If getting a ticket at a football match - you purchas say ticket One - then ticket five.

Then with pubs you insist that sopcial distance by getting bar to bring to you as a table - like they are doing at holiday camps.

Then why can't they open.

Joker Boris doesn't have a clue on how to work it out.

We have people being laid off in there thousands, theatres wont open to till next year at the latest. Cinemas closing down.

Its about time that Boris sorted this out before the country, gets into a position that there will NOT be anything to work for .

1andrew1 07-10-2020 21:56

Re: Coronavirus
 
Interesting article on why herd immunity is a fringe viewpoint.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...inge-viewpoint

nomadking 07-10-2020 22:15

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 36052998)
The way the Government is handling everything is scandalous.
Put it this way, if people are abding by sopcial distance. Why have Pubs, and football clubs suffering.

There is no science proof that by closing pubs at a certain time, or even football clubs will prevent the covid spreading.

If getting a ticket at a football match - you purchas say ticket One - then ticket five.

Then with pubs you insist that sopcial distance by getting bar to bring to you as a table - like they are doing at holiday camps.

Then why can't they open.

Joker Boris doesn't have a clue on how to work it out.

We have people being laid off in there thousands, theatres wont open to till next year at the latest. Cinemas closing down.

Its about time that Boris sorted this out before the country, gets into a position that there will NOT be anything to work for .

If people were social distancing and wearing masks, then the virus should've died out by now.


Then again where is the evidence that not closing pubs early wouldn't make a difference. Not possible because this is all uncharted territory.

Football was initially excluded from restrictions and people complained about that. Scientific evidence said that large outdoor gatherings were low risk.

How are other parts of the world doing? Eg Wales, Scotland, France, Spain, and all the other countries on the "quarantine on return" list?

jfman 07-10-2020 22:51

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36052999)
Interesting article on why herd immunity is a fringe viewpoint.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...inge-viewpoint

I propose that anyone who writes such nonsense, and their families, get proactively infected with coronavirus and isolated for 28 days. No medical intervention.

Statistically reduces the chance of onward infection. Strengthens the herd.

1andrew1 07-10-2020 23:06

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36053003)
I propose that anyone who writes such nonsense, and their families, get proactively infected with coronavirus and isolated for 28 days. No medical intervention.

Statistically reduces the chance of onward infection. Strengthens the herd.

:D:D:D

A conducted tour of the White House would achieve this. ;)

Hugh 07-10-2020 23:31

Re: Coronavirus
 
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/...104023047?s=21

Free "Regeneron" for everyone...

heero_yuy 08-10-2020 09:41

Re: Coronavirus
 
Regeneron sounds like a cosmetic snake oil product. Does it make your skin look younger and more plumped up? :D

Pierre 08-10-2020 10:10

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36052999)
Interesting article on why herd immunity is a fringe viewpoint.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...inge-viewpoint

Long on opinion short on science, as everybody is on both sides of the argument.

jonbxx 08-10-2020 10:26

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36053005)

I bet the CEO of Regeneron was very pleased to hear about this!

---------- Post added at 10:26 ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36052999)
Interesting article on why herd immunity is a fringe viewpoint.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...inge-viewpoint

Here's a bit more meat on the bones as to why the herd immunity approach might not work - https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/e...ed-protection/

papa smurf 08-10-2020 10:37

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36053013)
Regeneron sounds like a cosmetic snake oil product. Does it make your skin look younger and more plumped up? :D

That stuff that makes your skin look like varnished leather;)

jfman 08-10-2020 11:43

Re: Coronavirus
 
Hospitals 10 days from being at a critical level of admissions. - Tory Minister.

BenMcr 08-10-2020 12:08

Re: Coronavirus
 
Data on deaths due to Covid-19 vs Flu / Pneumonia since the start of the year:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...nd31august2020

Quote:

“More than three times as many deaths were recorded between January and August this year where COVID-19 was the underlying cause compared to influenza and pneumonia."

“The mortality rate for COVID-19 is also significantly higher than influenza and pneumonia rates for both 2020 and the five-year average."

“Since 1959, which is when ONS monthly death records began, the number of deaths due to influenza and pneumonia in the first eight months of every year have been lower than the number of COVID-19 deaths seen, so far, in 2020.”

denphone 08-10-2020 12:10

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36053023)
Hospitals 10 days from being at a critical level of admissions. - Tory Minister.

Unsurprising given the way the figures are going.

downquark1 08-10-2020 12:15

Re: Coronavirus
 
If herd immunity isn't going to work what is the solution apart from perpetual lockdown?

1andrew1 08-10-2020 12:29

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36053027)
If herd immunity isn't going to work what is the solution apart from perpetual lockdown?

Vaccine which creates a herd immunity.


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