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Pierre 29-06-2022 22:10

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36126546)
Farage is one of the most effective politicians of the last few decades. I think Great Man is a bit strong. Churchill was a great man. Farage has plenty of flaws. He often struggles on topics outside his chosen domain of Brexit and has a bit of an ego complex. There was a reason Vote Leave sidelined him. A complex man who has achieved quite a lot would be more accurate IMO.

To put it succinctly, he has done more to change the U.K. than any of the current career politicians in the house, and he did it whilst not being an MP

1andrew1 29-06-2022 22:22

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36126549)
To put it succinctly, he has done more to change the U.K. than any of the current career politicians in the house, and he did it whilst not being an MP

He was one of the longest career politicians there is, and did most of it whilst being paid as an MEP.

But that doesn't detract from his impact.

Mr K 29-06-2022 22:37

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36126549)
To put it succinctly, he has done more to change the U.K. than any of the current career politicians in the house, and he did it whilst not being an MP

True. We're a lot worse off for it too.

Mick 30-06-2022 07:08

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36126552)
True. We're a lot worse off for it too.

In your utter ridiculous opinion. :rolleyes:

jonbxx 30-06-2022 11:30

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36126546)
Farage is one of the most effective politicians of the last few decades. I think Great Man is a bit strong. Churchill was a great man. Farage has plenty of flaws. He often struggles on topics outside his chosen domain of Brexit and has a bit of an ego complex. There was a reason Vote Leave sidelined him. A complex man who has achieved quite a lot would be more accurate IMO.

Absolutely agree. He is an excellent communicator who is extremely good at batting away criticisms or other points of view while reinforcing his own point of view.

Even if you don't agree with his views (and I certain don't, many are horrible) you have to admire how good he is at putting them across

Julian 30-06-2022 12:07

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Maybe Nige should take a temporary job with Network Rail and negotiate with lynch :)

Mr K 30-06-2022 12:16

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36126582)
Absolutely agree. He is an excellent communicator who is extremely good at batting away criticisms or other points of view while reinforcing his own point of view.

Even if you don't agree with his views (and I certain don't, many are horrible) you have to admire how good he is at putting them across

Not so sure about that, as Hugh said he's failed to get into Parliament 7 times. He appeals to a minority who have the same views anyway.

Sephiroth 30-06-2022 13:47

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36126587)
Not so sure about that, as Hugh said he's failed to get into Parliament 7 times. He appeals to a minority who have the same views anyway.

Yeah - a minority of 52%

BenMcr 30-06-2022 13:53

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36126593)
Yeah - a minority of 52%

Even if that was all for Farage which is highly likely it wasn't, that's 52% of the number of people that voted at the time.

27.8% didn't vote and that doesn't count those that became eligible after that.

pip08456 30-06-2022 15:43

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36126594)
Even if that was all for Farage which is highly likely it wasn't, that's 52% of the number of people that voted at the time.

27.8% didn't vote and that doesn't count those that became eligible after that.

99% of that 27.8% who didn't vote agreed with Farage. Prove me wrong.

Pierre 30-06-2022 15:51

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36126587)
He appeals to a minority who have the same views anyway.

That’s usually how “appealing” usually works.

Hugh 30-06-2022 17:10

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36126603)
99% of that 27.8% who didn't vote agreed with Farage. Prove me wrong.

You are the one putting forward the proposition - back it up... ;)

pip08456 30-06-2022 20:30

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36126610)
You are the one putting forward the proposition - back it up... ;)

They did not vote so no-one knows what they think,thought or whatever.

I could be totally wrong or totally right, that's why those who don't vote should be discounted from any result. Ben was the one who decided to mention them.

Mick 01-07-2022 07:17

Re: GB News / Talk TV
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36126587)
Not so sure about that, as Hugh said he's failed to get into Parliament 7 times. He appeals to a minority who have the same views anyway.

4 Million people voted for UKIP, during his reign as leader, that’s not a minority.

Your lefty bullshit appeals to a lot far few more.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36126623)
They did not vote so no-one knows what they think,thought or whatever.

I could be totally wrong or totally right, that's why those who don't vote should be discounted from any result. Ben was the one who decided to mention them.

It’s total idiocy to start going over numbers. End of the day, 1.5 Million voted to leave more than remain, why are we even going over this FFS, not a dig at you pip, but it needs to bloody stop. :rolleyes:

Mr K 01-07-2022 09:44

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36126631)
4 Million people voted for UKIP, during his reign as leader, that’s not a minority.

Your lefty bullshit appeals to a lot far few more

Isn't his latest Party of choice this week 'Reform UK'? They aren't doing so well in the polls compared to lefty Labour. Greens have double the support.
LAB: 39% (-)
CON: 34% (+1)
LDEM: 9% (-1)
GRN: 8% (+2)
REF: 4% (-)
https://mobile.twitter.com/BritainEl...C8uZDBruUqAAAA


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