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Carth 27-09-2019 19:10

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The UK decision is instead a fundamental reassertion of constitutional principles.
There you go, no new laws were made or old ones broken during the moving of the goalposts ;)

1andrew1 27-09-2019 19:14

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36011996)
He did not commit any criminal offence. Does that clarify it for you?

I think it's the Jennifer Acuri matter that peple are suggesting is potentially criminal, not the proroguing of Parliament.
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Police could be called in to investigate how companies operated by Jennifer Arcuri came to be awarded £100,000 of public money during a time when she was close friends with Boris Johnson, deputy Labour leader Tom Watson has suggested.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9123156.html

mrmistoffelees 27-09-2019 20:16

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36011995)
You can keep going as long as you want. You cannot find a law that was broken, otherwise post the statute.


I don’t need to keep going, it’s there in print that he broke constitutional law


Accept it and move on

1andrew1 27-09-2019 20:57

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36011994)
It does matter, because people are trying to suggest that he committed a criminal offence, which he did not. That isn't spin, it's about stating the facts correctly. Much as you would like to 'lock him up'.

Let's leave it to The Independent Office for Police Conduct to investigate, Old Boy.

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Breaking - Boris Johnson has been referred to a police watchdog to assess whether he should be investigated for the criminal offence of misconduct in public office.
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...laims-11821297

Carth 27-09-2019 21:05

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36012015)
Breaking - Boris Johnson has been referred to a police watchdog to assess whether he should be investigated for the criminal offence of misconduct in public office.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...laims-11821297

I think that what we're seeing lately will become the norm, whoever is in charge.

Nobody in Parliament is squeaky clean, expect more of this in the months/years to come ;)

Hugh 27-09-2019 21:35

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36012016)
I think that what we're seeing lately will become the norm, whoever is in charge.

Nobody in Parliament is squeaky clean, expect more of this in the months/years to come ;)

i don’t believe that’s true - there are a small number of politicians who believe they are above the law, and that their ambition and self-enrichment is all that matters, but I believe they are in the minority.

They would like you to believe otherwise, because then their excuse is "everyone is doing it, so I’m not real that bad", when in reality, they are the pond **** in the lake of politics.

Damien 27-09-2019 22:22

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Obviously corruption is bad but what law specifically could he be accused of breaking? Is it illegal to give public money to someone you have a relationship with if they do actually do something for it (even if that is just to go on trade trips)? I know it breaks several rules and he may fall foul of what the Mayor is allowed to do but he is already out of that office....

1andrew1 27-09-2019 23:13

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36012018)
Obviously corruption is bad but what law specifically could he be accused of breaking? Is it illegal to give public money to someone you have a relationship with if they do actually do something for it (even if that is just to go on trade trips)? I know it breaks several rules and he may fall foul of what the Mayor is allowed to do but he is already out of that office....

Misconduct. Sky News says "The Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) has been asked to assess whether the prime minister should be investigated for the criminal offence of misconduct in public office."

As reported by the BBC
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In a letter to the PM setting out the referral, the monitoring officer says: "The conduct matter relates to your time as mayor of London between 2008 and 2016.
"During this time it has been brought to my attention that you maintained a friendship with Ms Jennifer Arcuri and as a result of that friendship allowed Ms Arcuri to participate in trade missions and receive sponsorship monies in circumstances when she and her companies could not have expected otherwise to receive those benefits."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49859321

Mick 28-09-2019 07:02

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Politically motivated attack, pretty much like what President Trump is going through with this impeachment inquiry in the U.S.

Damien 28-09-2019 07:17

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36012023)
Politically motivated attack, pretty much like what President Trump is going through with this impeachment inquiry in the U.S.

It was the GLA who referring him: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49859321

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The Greater London Authority's monitoring officer - whose job it is to monitor the conduct of the mayor and other members - said it had written to the police watchdog, the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC).

It said it had referred the PM to the IOPC "so it can assess whether or not it is necessary to investigate the former mayor of London for the criminal offence of misconduct in public office".

It added that it has recorded a "conduct matter" against Mr Johnson which happens when there is information that indicates that a criminal offence may have been committed.

But it does not mean that a criminal offence is proved in any way, the GLA's monitoring officer added.
Seems like a standard practise that evidence arose so they refer it over.

Mick 28-09-2019 08:12

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You’re not telling me he wasn’t “leaned on”. All these investigations, character assassinations on Boris, are in place for one reason, to stop Brexit.

1andrew1 28-09-2019 08:36

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36012025)
You’re not telling me he wasn’t “leaned on”. All these investigations, character assassinations on Boris, are in place for one reason, to stop Brexit.

A referral is the best way of clearing up the matter. It does not mean guilt. Are you honestly suggesting that the information compiled by The Sunday Times should be ignored? This is a democracy, not North Korea.
And as for the Brexit conspiracy theory - I would suggest that keeping Boris in power is a good way to prevent Brexit as he seems incapable of delivering it. ;)

papa smurf 28-09-2019 08:58

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36012025)
You’re not telling me he wasn’t “leaned on”. All these investigations, character assassinations on Boris, are in place for one reason, to stop Brexit.

It worries me that this whole establishment stitch up will end in riots, the mood in the country is not good, unless your a gloating remainer, which the majority of voters aren't.

1andrew1 28-09-2019 09:10

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36012027)
It worries me that this whole establishment stitch up will end in riots, the mood in the country is not good, unless your a gloating remainer, which the majority of voters aren't.

Boris is the establishment.

Mr K 28-09-2019 09:12

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He's a serial law breaker and habitual liar.

How many more skeletons/ladies/unknown offspring in the cupboard?


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